Killing of ISIS leader Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurayshi

Actually safe surfer what was the point of the thread America kills another isis leader and you go full on bitchfest about it , American did this and America did that it's getting old

First, in my experience of No fly zones , they will be conditional on the circumstances which are mandated at the time by the UNSC resolution. In the case of Libya it was " The UNSC signed a unanimous resolution Nr 1973 which in order to protect Libyan citizens allowed the creation of a non-fly zone, military intervention, ( I presume that destroying a TV station was part of Military Intervention? ) and an embargo on all weapons entering Libya. In the first place this resolution was brought in to enforce a cease fire between the regime and the protesters, who were demanding the removal of Ghaddafi. Who perhaps was understandably reluctant to agree to, and to protect the civilians who were facing the brunt of the fighting.

Resolution Nr 1973 This, does not mention anything about the rebels being armed. But I'd say that if the rebels were attacking civilians, then NATO would be entitled to act to protect the civilians, same as if the regime attacked them.

Aircraft situation March 2011: Analysts estimate many of Libya’s fast jets are in fact no longer airworthy. Gaddafi has so far also lost at least three aircraft in the course of this uprising with two jets defecting to Malta and the crew of a third ejecting over the desert rather than bomb opposition targets as ordered. Personally, I have seen several fighter aircraft hardened shelters ( all bombed to bits) with their planes inside. But in other places, only the bombed out shelters remained. In the subsequent House of Commons, investigation as you said, it was roundly condemned. Obama said initially that the mission had been a success in terms of what it set out to do, to protect the Libyan Civilian population from being massacred by Ghaddafi. But failure to plan for " the day after" led to it becoming a "shitshow" as Obama put it. So there you have it.

The story's that my friends told me about Ghaddafi when I was there, were horrific. But they never mentioned that he was going to butcher half a million people in Benghazi. What they did say was that he turned his tribesmen loose on his enemies, and they slaughtered so many, that Ghaddafi winched when he heard the news. And they cheered when he was ousted, and even more so when they heard that he was dead.

Are you blaming Gatling for all the dead children, Safe Surfer??

Apparently not a care in the world for children killed by Assad and the Russians ....

Long post but I have just one question.

How is the deliberate destruction of Libya’s water supply “protecting the civilian population”?

https://theecologist.org/2015/may/14/war-crime-nato-deliberately-destroyed-libyas-water-infrastructure

Elmer whats Russian military forces Doing in Libya fighting against the Libyan government ????

I've well checked my sources and I've been posting on ISIS threads since day one ..

A detailed account on the rise and fall is ISIS is posted by me .

Guess what .

Ahh gooood aul denial's .

Look I found evidence on a wiki lol

@SafeSurfer

I think your bias is clouding your knowledge of the subject, which appears to be very simplistic.

You are right that "Syrians" are fighting against ISIS but its a lot more nuanced than that.

The dynamics are somewhat complex but there was never really a substantial effort by the Syrian Arab Armed Forces (SAAF) to counter ISIS.

In reality over the last decade, there were multiple separate but connected conflicts occurring within Syria at the same time. Multiple state and non-state actors with their own agendas, using Syria as their playground.

Also:

The narrative that al-Mawla blew himself up, is very plausible. In fact, it is consistent with ISIS TTPs.

SAAF and ISIS have indeed come up against each other, however ISIS were never the SAAF's main effort.

In the last 3 years, SAAF have become more active against ISIS "sleeper cells", but that is only because SAAF have more operational movement now. And they are not up against ISIS when they were a cohesive organisation.

It is worth examining who are part of "SAAF", its not purely Syrian soldiers.

In truth, the US-led coalition backed SDF were the ones who had the most success against ISIS.

If SAAF were significantly fighting ISIS, maybe you could comment on why the southern Damascus suburbs were controlled by ISIS for so long?

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Stick to your wiki you'll find not many will support your claims ,

why ?

They damaged a pipe factory,they didn't bomb any water production/ treatment facilities , water flowed thoroughly around Libya