Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

If Con goes to hurling it has to be something seriously amiss behind the scenes but will wait and see .We could see some different teams and grounds next year in the league the way things are looking

If that happens who would be his likely replacements?

I assume Jim Gavin won't want to come back- and do a Heffernan.

Before Dessie Farrell was named new manager the bookies had Paul Clarke as favourite after him. Then Jayo was the next likely and another Jim - McGuinness was 14/1.

There would be some chat if Jim McGuinness got the Dublin job. The most experienced out of the above list anyway.

Strange mindset, might show how big the problem is with Dublin, why not drop it in and try score a goal. 1-15 / 1-11 is more respectable .

The commentators loving Conor Lane. Are they for **** real? He's allowing the crowd to ref the match.

Dublin going nowhere fast. No new or young player is going to thrive in this environment and there are obvious signs that the senior players don't believe and are downing tools.

Kerry played well. Like Armagh last week their transition from defence to attack put us to shame.

Teams will now be looking forwards to playing Dublin. Because it still will say 'Dublin' in print and call it a scalp. I would rate this current Dublin team/panel as a middling div 2 team at worst and a top div 2 team at best. There will be a lot of delighted counties in the next few years dining out on beating 'The Dubs' as if they are the same great team.

I still think Dublin have the players to be the best team in the land. You need the top two inches for that though and it's very obvious (withdrawals from the squad, the slackening effort, the rumours) Dublin heads aren't in the game. You'd hope the county board are aware of the issues and take steps to get back on track.

The Lane praise was bizarre alright. Feck it I just checked it is Mayo up next for the footballers on the 19th in Croke Park. Mayo could destroy Dublin in that wide pitch. I think that the DCB should seriously consider moving Dublin football games to Parnell to at least make things awkward for the opposition.

Looking at the fixtures, Dublin need two wins and they maybe survive in Div 1. You would say it should be 2 points v Kildare. But by then Kildare might be flying and Dublin could be on the floor mentally. Plus is it is Newbridge. Can write off the points in Omagh as far as I am concerned. Donegal then in Croke Park. I think Donegal will have too much for Dublin in that game. Then it is Monaghan in Clones.

It will not be a nice few months.

I wouldnt see it that way at all - a hurling all ireland would mean a lot more to him and to the county than another football all ireland. Not saying they will get there but.....

Also, his brother is on the hurling team.

There's nothing worse than playing in a team where you know everyone isn't pulling in the same direction. If he does does go (I really hope he does) I think it's a safe assumption to make that his motivation is to enjoy his playing. I'm sure he's aware Dublin would need a few lads from Limerick, Cork, Tipp, Kilkenny, maybe more, to emigrate to have a chance of winning an All Ireland.

Paul Curran. Gilroy if he has the time?

I think Gilroy would be a great pick. Get a structure/ethos going for a year then hand it over to a young pretender.

Nah, Gilroy would be a backwards step plus his work just won't allow the time needed. He's a busy man these days.

Would agree Pat would do a good short term if he wanted and hopefully someone alongside to take over but who would that guy be that is the question at the moment .Certainly he is the level we would need .

Pity it is unlikely that Dublin go back a few generations before that -

https://stvincentsgaa.ie/examiner-mickey-whelan-huge-impact-dublin-gaa/

'The Americans have a saying: “If you want to run fast, you’ve got to run fast.” In other words, you can’t train to be a sprinter unless you sprint. You can’t train to be a footballer, unless you train to play football. We’ve produced athletes here in Dublin the last 20 years that will jump over the moon, but we’re not winning All-Irelands. We’ve been falling down in the skills of the game, whereas Kerry don’t. If they get 30-to-40% of the ball, they’ll get enough scores to win a game. It comes down to playing, making decisions on the ball under pressure, instead of running the sugar out of fellas. People are only buying into that now.’

— Mickey Whelan, November 2007

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Mickey Whelan is in his 80's now though so I assume that ship has long since sailed! I remember John O'Leary slated Whelan in his book. But O'Leary later apologised and realised he was wrong.

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I don't know if there is an auld fella type experienced type 'figurehead' who keeps up on the modern methods of football in Dublin GAA circles, and who has the free time. But that is the type of manager I think this current Dublin panel needs. Someone that takes no messing and can implement a structure. Pete McGrath managed it with Fermanagh when most in the GAA world had him written off.