Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

Never mind the players not learning. The management team haven't learned a bloody thing. Similar to the Armagh game, at the start of the second half we went with humping long ball into the forward. Looking at who we had in there it was a mental decision but clearly a tactic they were told to use.

That's like comparing a rottweiler to a kitten.

I see Brolly being at his attention seeking best in the Indo...

'The greatest team in the game's history have suddenly become the whipping boys of division 1'

I think every one here accepts Dublin have a lot of issues with generally low expectations for the year ahead but to dismiss them so comprehensively after two games, one against a first choice Kerry team at home is just nonsense. In terms of the league if Dublin get a couple of first choice players back they should be able to win two games and stay in division 1 but there are no guarantees of course.

My main issue with his take is that the Dublin team that took to the field last night and last week bears very little relation to the teams that won All Irelands...in effect it's a different team with alot of new inexperienced players.

The obvious comparison is Kilkenny.

Won 4 in row. Lost 2010. Came back win 4 of the next 5. Win 2015 with just 1 of the players that started the 2008 final where they were at their peak.

What did KK have that Dublin dont have - hard to say, but I would say principally that new players coming through in 2010-15 were coming into a system structure and ethos that had been in place for more than a decade, and backed fully by the senior players.

If Dublin get beaten in Leinster this year, I think it could bring on a bigger malaise. The bigger the drop, the harder it is to get back. Look at Meath football. Or Cork.

To be fair the lads coming into the KK team were closer to the guys that left than the current situation with us where there seems to be a much bigger gulf . As for good old Joe he loves running with the hounds then hunting with the fox he is not a serious pundit let him at it pay no heed whatever he writes or says .

Dublin hurling team -

Waterford Hurling Team -

Dessie and Jayo fell out years ago.

But tis only the dirty dubs that do things like that. He should have seen red a few times, not a good advert for Waterford hurling.

Was a cracking game and a real battle from the off. Disappointing to concede that last second free but the lads didn't take a backwards step all day.

Disappointed not to win that. We wasted too much ball when we had the wind in the first half, lots of wides and lots of aimless ball fired at the forwards.

Still, we conceded two disappointing goals, played with a numerical disadvantage for 20+ minutes and more than held our own in the contest.

The first sin bin hurt us a lot. Thought it was a little on the harsh side but sure it is what it is. Thought we dealt with the second sin bin really well and playing into that wind the lads dug deep and almost got it done.

What really impressed me was the ruck work today and the skill levels in general. Lads were coming out of big rucks with the ball and using well for the most part. Something we've not be great at over the past while.

Can't undersell how difficult conditions were today either. That was a blustery game blowing and it was absolutely freezing cold as well. Hope the lads hit the ground running once the harder ground arrives in late spring.

I nearly lost the will to live when he took about 5 minutes to book the 4 lads.

You'd hope someone in HQ is going tomreview that incident and hit him with a lengthy ban. Hurling is a tough enough game without lads at that type of behaviour. I won't hold my breath on them taking action though.

If only his name was John Small.