Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Just wondering if a full invasion happens with Russia invading the rest of Ukraine how long would it take? If they are stating Russia is 70% ready with personnel to invade how much longer realistically will it take them to get to 100% and in that time frame how many more soldiers could the Ukrainian army muster for full time soldiers fully trained as I'm sure there are thousands getting trained at moment, also with civilians getting trained to help fight. Does time in this case more favour Russia with getting from 70% to 100% or with Ukraine able to get more soldiers trained up in the same period, civilians as well, more positions set up and equipment as well. Supplied by the USA etc. With this going on who benefits more out of the 2 before if it does happen and hopefully not a war between the 2.

one tangible reason to ask for their removal is the movement of short and medium range nuclear capable ballistic missiles, which are currently in Belarus.

if any invasion occured, it gives standoff capability against Ukraine. But also range to strike western Europe and Nordics.

(you could argue this has been the case for a while, with the capability Russia have in Kaliningrad, but not on the scale currently in Belarus)

Back to my point, the 8 point de-escalation plan Russia handed to NATO mentions re-negotiation of the INF treaty, which the above is an example of Russias blatant disregard of it in the first place.

pretty standard one rule for me, not for thee... escalate to de-escalate tactics by the Russian side.

there is enough OSINT out there to do any correlation fairly quickly. As you mentioned, usual media outlets who would jump at a chance to catch out any western intel, aren't. You can get tailored debriefs now of images from subscription services from the likes of Maxar etc....

of course you will have people who try to gaslight this with "oh well the west have bought them out" and garbage like that...

personally, I follow the money, and certain troop movements as an indication of what may be happening.

The ISR capability being used in Europe and Ukraine is staggering. With the deployment of the Constant Phoenix to the UK also, it shows what the west think may happen.

if they were so hell bent on starting a war, there are far cheaper methods in doing this than what is currently happening.

It's also quite telling that part of the Wagner group deployment to Mali, which was meant to be long term, and which caused the Swedish to pull out earlier than planned in the international mission there. Have been recalled to Russia.

edit: looks like a bomber deployment to the UK also

Then why is Filatov complaining that NATO have missiles within five minutes from Moscow? That's the problem the Russians have in all this. What if the Russians shipped some missiles to Cuba? Would we have people complaining that the US is telling people what to do?

Because Russia have missiles in Kaliningrad a number of years now, that contravene previous and current treaties

At what point do people start digging themselves out of the hole they've gotten themselves into? Any calm assessment knows that is not going to happen. The Russians are telling anyone who will listen that its not going to happen. The Ukrainians are saying its not going to happen. And the NATO response demonstrates they believe its not going to happen. And still, people aren't ready to give up yet and accept its over. Better luck next year.

People have been squawking about an imminent Russian invasion for 4 months now trying - and failing - to drum up mass hysteria. The US has burnt through a huge amount of political capital, the UK is frankly embarrassing itself under BoJo and Ukraine has been the primary victims of the entirely manufactured instability. It seems that finally calmer heads in Europe are beginning to try diplomacy. I think another poster earlier said that this was a sign of Europe losing all relevance in world politics - nothing could be farther from the truth.

What political capital have the US expended? It seems to date a fairly low cost endeavor for them. Throw some troops into NATO countries, push Europe to get the thumb out and stand up to Russia. The West doesn't have to do much at all, just sit back and watch Putin dig himself into a deeper hole, until the inevitable retreat. That, or he decides to attack, in which case it's the end of him and his regime.

@Sand Russians are telling anyone who will listen that its not going to happen.

The same Russians who said they weren't in Crimea before they illegally annexed it or the same Russians who were not in eastern Ukraine ,

Or the same Russians who said they did not shoot down flight MH17.

Now sand remind which of the above isn't true ???