Remote working - the future?

What exactly are you referring to? Who do I want misery for?

And there is a cost to everything.

Working from home couldn't suit me better but I'll still be going back the office the majority of the time, it works better for the business. Who pay me. And I agree with that.

For the people you're happy to see being denied the opportunity to work remotely. It's pretty obvious from the sneering attitude.

Good advice there.

If you think colleagues are toxic in person - they can be a million times worse when they don't have to look you in the eye, and can simply do the nasty stuff on-line.

And as for managers-justifying-their-jobs: Managers are more essential than ever in dispersed teams. When people are co-located, their is a degree of informal collaboration, which sometimes can lead to effectively self-managing teams. But when they are dispersed, there's no chance of this happening. Someone has to be officially responsible for ensuring that collaboration happens, resources are available and progress-blockers are resolved.

The carry on on this thread is laughable,sneering attitude? I can't disagree ? As I asked previously is this supposed to be a safe space or is it ok to disagree ?

The selfishness and entitled nature of some of the posters here is galling to be honest.

Working from home, for me, as someone with a young family, a house with plenty of space and a dedicated home office outside the house is perfect really. I'm also at the point of my career where I don't necessarily need any guidance from anyone else either (but I am not naive enough to think I know it all ). But I realize that there are tonnes of people who won't be best served by remote working, including myself when I was younger and making my way.

I had a chat today with a partner in one of the larger law firms in town. He has hardly been in, happy enough with it, happy for it to continue, but said the trainees are really struggling and a lot of them haven't progressed anywhere near where they should have over the past 2 years.

Anyway as long as everyone posting here is alright jack.

Every post Bumble makes makes her sound more like a dinosaur I'm afraid.

Job hunting came up among friends yesterday, two immediate questions for recruiters:

A) Can you meet X salary expectation?

B) WFH?

If either of them is a no it's a polite f_ck off. The in office brigade are either going to massively overpay or get the dregs.

Second paragraph is completely wrong from my experience. Have been more than able to collaborate with my colleagues without a manager having to organise things.

She lives in a hierarchy era...

"The carry on on this thread is laughable,sneering attitude? I can't disagree ? As I asked previously is this supposed to be a safe space or is it ok to disagree ?"

Nobody said you couldn't disagree. You expressed your opinion and someone else expressed their opinion about your opinion. That's how discussion works.

"The selfishness and entitled nature of some of the posters here is galling to be honest".

Please explain how people seeking to improve their working conditions and work/life balance amounts to "entitlement".  As for selfishness, people have a duty to look after themselves and their families. Most people put that priority above self-sacrifice in the name of an employer who is likely to lay them off as soon as the bean-counters deem it financially expedient to do so. 

"Working from home, for me, as someone with a young family, a house with plenty of space and a dedicated home office outside the house is perfect really. I'm also at the point of my career where I don't necessarily need any guidance from anyone else either (but I am not naive enough to think I know it all ). But I realize that there are tonnes of people who won't be best served by remote working, including myself when I was younger and making my way."

So does everyone else. I don't recall anyone saying that everyone must work from home from now on. It's quite obvious that it won't suit some jobs, it won't suit some personalities, it won't suit some homes and it won't suit some businesses. That's almost goes without saying. That fact remains that where remote working has worked well for the past two years, many people are keen to continue with it. You call that entitlement. I call it good sense.

"I had a chat today with a partner in one of the larger law firms in town. He has hardly been in, happy enough with it, happy for it to continue, but said the trainees are really struggling and a lot of them haven't progressed anywhere near where they should have over the past 2 years."

So what? Require more time in the office for trainees, then gradually increase their WFH opportunities. Or not. Sorted.

"Anyway as long as everyone posting here is alright jack."

I think you need to take a look in the mirror there. You're alright Jack because you think the office is better and you're happy to see other people denied WFH because you think they're the selfish ones. I have to wonder about the mentality that looks at someone who seeks a better work-life balance, less time spent on a soul-destroying commute, more time with family...and sees a character flaw. Astounding.

wonderful congratulations.

I don't really agree that you need to work in person to work well together.

The best two people I have ever worked with, I have only ever seen on zoom calls.

Several of the people I hate working with I ate lunch with them in the office on a daily basis.

This is just an amazing thing to say. Imagine this being your view of people who want to WFH? Galled no less, at something that has nothing to do with you for the benefit of (most likely) large employers making buckets of profit.

Everyone should put their own circumstances #1 by a gigantic distance.

And they are paying the wages, so what? They are getting your time/experience/skills in return. And probably benefiting to a far greater degree than they are paying for it.

If you arent getting paid fairly by your employer id suggest thats a failing on your part to be honest.