Russia - threadbanned users in OP

One falls, and another arises...

Well, obviously I can read English Sailorman because that's what I've been typing the last 10 posts in our discussion, but I've also obviously upset you a great deal, so I'll just leave you alone now and you can relax again.

Estimated total killed in both Chechen wars is 300'000 Civilians plus Military. Grozny was full of UXO's, and booby traps. It was littered with Tanks, APC's, etc. and not just in Grozny, but all over Chechnya. In one incident there was a Russian tank / heavy armour convoy trravelling up a road that was cut out of the hillside, with the other side dropping down into a lake. The Chechens , from the far side of the lake, waited until the last tank had started the uphill climb, and then hit it. Then they hit the 1st one, trapping the the remainder between the two disabled tanks. Then the slaughter started ( same as had happened in the streets of Grozny.) and the still movable tanks / APC's had to push the damaged tanks ahead of them off the road and into the lake, even with injured but still alive crews inside them. They used a special code Nr on trucks loaded with bodies being transferred back to Moscow, and in one incident, a load of rebels travelled from Dagestan through Chechenya to attack a russian base, and despite many checkpoints, they were not stopped once because they used a Death Truck .They lost a lot of heavy armour there in Chechnya, and the same in Afghanistan. To the present day, you can find loads of rusting tanks and APC's dotting the Afghan countryside. Heavy armour is no use against a hidden enemy, armed with tank busting weapons. This is not a reflection on the Russian troops, considering most of them were young conscripts, they were brave and very brave.It was said that no one survived either the Chechen or Afghan wars.. the ones that did return home to Russia had been changed forever. Now if an invasion goes ahead, I'm pretty sure that Putin will face a major backlash from the Russian Population, something he is well aware of, but as Khodorkovsky says, he is presently unpredictable.

The Dagestan massacre comes to mind

When did this happen?

The reason for that is that the situation is far more complex to how it is being portrayed by the US and UK.

But like that they lost more than enough tanks in Syria and ukraine compared to elsewhere,

The Russians have modernised but that modernisation only made to to 80,000 men ,who Will be the vanguard of any expansion of territory , with the bulk of less equipped and less effective forces ,for some reason people on boards seem to think that when the Russians start rolling out of their borders everyone is suddenly going to surrender to them because they are afraid of Russians capability ,

It's more than likely Putin has miscalculated this whole situation ,Nato are standing firm , ukraine are standing firm ,

So what's left either putin invades and we go to war or putin walks away having gained nothing which leads to further humiliation in the future if ukraine and NATO don't fold

Russia's problem is that its economy is very small in comparison to America or even Western Europe.

Putin not going to improve his reputation among some as being an archetypal supervillain with a table that long. 😋

Meh. If they go for a shorter table he would be immediately accused of endangering Macron because something, something, covid...

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