Height limit buildings Dublin to abolished

I have no problem with tall buildings. I have a problem with tall UGLY buildings. Or tall buildings that look out of place. Of course this is purely subjective. I think the SIPTU building is an eyesore. There are plenty of tall buildings in London and they add to the skyline rather than detract from the older skyline. I think The Shard fits PERFECT into London but do not like The Gherkin. I like the building but don't think it suits London. Should be in Paris on Barcelona or somewhere. But that's just me.

Brilliant news, long overdue. Building up is desperately needed to help with the housing crisis.

Long overdue. Development in Dublin and most other Irish cities has been stunted by a nostalgic rose tinted view of the 1940s and 50s. Everything gets bundled into the idea of protecting Georgian Dublin even if it is little more than a 50s block shed with a flat roof.

Once this goes they need to abolish An Taisce with it.

As long as we don’t try for a “world’s tallest building” and invoke the Skyscraper Effect.

Are Irish people happy to live in high-rise apartment blocks now?

They weren't very successful in Ballymun and many people living there wanted to live in a regular house so the council had to re-develop the area and build houses. Small developments of low-rise flat complexes eg 4/5 storeys that were built in the 50/60's seemed to be a bit more acceptable but many of those were also demolished. Even duplex developments built in some places around the city are considered to be 'less desirable'.

Just because high-rise is common in other cities doesn't mean it will be successful here. Afaik, large developments of high-rise apartments in many cities can have a lot of social problems or become soul-less empty places with no sense of community - why do the powers that be think it would be any different here?

I don't think super high rise will solve all our problems, but why aren't we building even 10-15 storey apartment blocks everywhere, in the midst of a housing crisis?

And would people ever shut the f**k up about Ballymun. Basically a load of totally impoverished people were dumped into them with absolutely no services or facilities and left to rot.

High rise works all over the world including in cities just over the Irish sea, there's no reason they can't work here.

I mean do people really think we can just keep building semi D suburbs and one off housing? How thick are people in this country?

The Journal article referred to by the OP was about DCC updating height limits which could in some circumstances allow for 25 -floor buildings. Much of the comment seems to be about abolishing restrictions more or less entirely, which was not what DCC proposed. Very high buildings can be justified in some areas , abut not in others, for what should be obvious reasons. Some recent proposals passed by An Bord Pleanala have bee appealed to the courts, and in many of these (and other proposals) the high rise buildings are inappropriately located.

You can increase density in Dublin without going for very tall buildings. Well-designed neighbourhoods with blocks of 3 to 5 floors can provide for a good urban environment, dense enough to be near shops and good transport links. After all that's how many of the best areas in continental cities are configured.

There are a number of high rise buildings under construction or starting at the moment. Two 22 storey towers are on Tara Street and will be very visible over the next few months as the lift shafts start appearing.

I know the one next to Tara Street Station will be highest on the island of Ireland so far.

Maybe people will realise it's not the end of the world.

Also a 30 storey building should be starting soon opposite Heuston which will be higher again around 100 meters.

It does appear big changes are coming...and it's not before time.

The docklands is absolute joke, what were they thinking with 6 and 7 storey buildings down there !?? Such a waste.

Yes, absolutely. If someone doesn't want to live in high rise the fact that they exist and are helping reduce demand will mean it will be cheaper for those people who want a home that's not high rise. Nobody is suggesting that we repeat the Ballymun mistakes.

High rise will work here as we desperately need it, we are in a housing crisis remember. Social problems are just as likely in housing estates, we just have to make sure the apartment blocks have good access to transport, shops, gyms, pubs etc. If the apartments aren't far from the city centre then they are in a desirable location. High rise is one of the best ways to tackle the housing crisis as the demand is clearly there and I think Dublin would be a city of eejits if we don't allow at least a few high rise apartment blocks to be built.

The only people that will be buying or living in these high rises will be foreign investment firms or 1 percenters in short term let's.

Anyone that thinks this is a solution to the housing issue hasnt a clue how high rise works these days. They letting their need to see 'cool' new design cloud the reality of what these will be used for.

I can see you're point about the "1 percenters" , in fact a lot of the quality blocks in town at the moment appear to be populated this way. Hence the €3.5k price tag I mentioned. But, why? In the 1980s we had a few Spanish students over the course of about 4 summers. They all came from apartments, but the apartments were described as large with good quality common areas and outdoor space.

Maybe our psyche doesn't tend towards long term apartment living. Despite all I've written, I've never considered apartment living.

RIAI won’t be happy.

Yep. That's stunning. EMBRACE the difference between the old and the new... And let's be honest, Dublin Skyline? Not exactly Paris in the first place, is it?

This is what these people actually think. I don't think people over a certain age or from a certain demographic understand what the word "finite" means. They think you can just keep building semi-ds and one off housing into the coming centuries.

We get what we deserve in this country.

That rule changes nothing. Its a maximum height limit.

Most new buildings were 2-6 story in that time anyways, this rule change will do nothing to address sprawl. Proper zoning in and around the city to set decent minimum height limits is needed, but you cant really legislate for that - its up to city planners to do something decent for once.

It won't happen. Maybe a few 100,000 more houses will be built before the population of Ireland goes into terminal decline. Fears of "no more countryside" are greatly exaggerated

I'm sure there is CBD in the IFSC.

Probably a bit of THC as well 😊

It has pretty much all already been developed or is in the process of being developed as far down as the East Link bridge at this stage

One trick pony

I wouldn't engage TBH.

Most Irish people think the lack of "natives" on the ground is one of the best improvements Dublin has ever seen.