Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

Its a case of tick all of the boxes rinse and repeat ,

You can enter womens events as a man and as long as you say that you identify as a woman you will not be challenged and allowed to take part due to fears of a backlash from self anointed activists

Not sure what exactly you are on about. The guy in Trinity was a cis man acting like an absolute prick. He was never genuine.

A cis male trinity student joined a race - ticked the female box just to prove a point and came 2nd in the race. He clearly said he did it to prove a point. Apologies I didnt mean to seem rude or dismissive.

Ah just a prick being a prick

Not really. He didnt get a gender identity cert. The problem is he abused Trinity rules to prove a transphobic point.

You mean the guy was a man.

Give over this shyte about cis men.

Why relabel 99% percentage of something to suit the 1 % ?

Oh yeah feelings.🙄

That's the whole problem too many people being allowed compete in women's sport have pricks.

Finally you seem to be nearly getting it.

Could be the aerodynamics at play here.

I’ve no doubt in time, there will be transgender categories for sports, and that may be the fairest way of competing for everyone.

Who are you to deny who they are?

Dial back the presumption, judgement and hate.

Let that person live their life, explore how they understand themselves to be, you might be surprised but how they live is not your business.

He said he identified as female .

Hence why he was allowed to enter a females race ,

Could have been a woman who had transitioned to be a man. The distinction is kind of important, given the point he was trying to make (rightly or wrongly).

Won't happen because you have flutes on twitter, on other forms of social media, in the mainstream media, hell even on here that will howl that the women are being transphobic and are no better than a 19th century man who wants to keep poor downtrodden "women" down.

It can be career ending, could mean loss of sponsors, being kicked off the team or in case of college athletes in the states loss of scholarship and hence end of college.

Hell look how trail blazing LGB rights advocate Martina Navratilova was hounded because she dared question it.

The chattering social media right on classes are becoming very powerful, all it takes is a few to start the ball rolling.

It is getting to the stage to be like McCarthyism in the States in the 50s.

It has to be everyone as united they stand and divided they will surely fail.

Now one could say that one way is for viewers and spectators to just walk away, but viewers especially those against it will watch to be able to complain and say I told you so. It is just the way people are.

Talk about missing the finer nuances of the debate mate. In sport there is ample evidence that yes, trans women have an advantage for roughly a year. If I recall the IAA brought in a rule that trans women if competing should have a testosterone level of approx 5 nmol/L for approximately a year preceeding races they intended to enter. After the year, the ground was more or less even. There is an edge in terms of muscle mass but its not all that great and will require individual sports to be tailored. Calling out their biology of who they were and who they are now means that if you do think that being a trans woman is still a man then you would have to account for lower rates of testosterone as in men its 10 nmol/L. IOC rules have been consitently looked at by doctors working in the field. What would you tend to trust more - a medical physician with ten years experience or Barry the Banker who read an article on the Guardian and choked on his bottle of Heiniken ?

PS Mc Carthyism stemmed from the Red Scare for communists - Most communists would support the transition of people as it fits in with empowering the individual over those at the top of society...makes your fairly facile point kind of ironic

Not at all I am afraid, you are quite wrong on that

Scientific American -

The notion of transgender girls having an unfair advantage comes from the idea that testosterone causes physical changes such as an increase in muscle mass. But transgender girls are not the only girls with high testosterone levels. An estimated 10 percent of women have polycystic ovarian syndrome, which results in elevated testosterone levels. They are not banned from female sports. Transgender girls on puberty blockers, on the other hand, have negligible testosterone levels

Are we going to go around in circles again with the debunked notion of physical supremacy of trans women over women?

You claimed they had a life long advantage

I posted they didnt with evidence

Whats your rebuttal to my point

From World Rugby

https://www.world.rugby/news/591776/world-rugby-approves-updated-transgender-participation-guidelines (link to PDF at bottom of page)

the full bars represent the advantage of males over females, the dark blue represents the reduction in that advantage after a year of hormone therapy

Turban is a psychiatrist not a medical or physiological expert.

The use of puberty blockers is to prevent secondary sexual characteristics that develop before they transition. Ireland has a robust mechanism to address the matter , including seeing a psychologist and living as a chosen gender for two years. What you have done here is not even stretched as far as answering a reasonable question but instead have postured into the abstract with the eloquntly phrased "they are sterilsed and will never mature to have sexual function of any description, except at the hands of paedphiles" (Ive not seen anyone jump the shark like that in a number of years). Are psychologists and the medical profession wrong then and you are correct?

I never thought I would see the day I became woke...I need a stiff drink!

Without the requisite specialisation and years of practice in either sports medicine or physiology, you may as well be asking a GP for their opinion as listening to Turban.

Perceive what? The fact that chancers like Turban are called out? That's a good thing.

Having a degree does not make you an expert.