The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Get SF talking about policy and it all falls apart, they're much more comfortable trading jibes about terrorism.

Bring it to policy and they make fools of themselves because they don't have any new or different ideas, that's the worry about them in opposition, their budget plans are for the fairies and housing is undercooked and they'll cave to any and all demands from the public sector or whichever group of the week is trying to tug on the heartstrings.

Seems pretty similar to what FFG have been saying after all those years, 'supply'. And still nothing has changed.

They're useless.

If I hear "we'll put a months rent back in renters pockets" one more time I'll shoot myself. Its one of the soundbites that sinn fein love the most, crowbar it into everything they do, and is absolutely meaningless

I know what the first vote was for. The point is that the council voted to seek tenders from developers on the basis that the developments would be 50% private, 30% council and 20% affordable. Then in 2020 SF voted against tenders BECAUSE they had the split that was agreed in 2017, claiming it was unacceptable. If SF hadn't voted against the plan those houses could possibly have been built and occupied already.

O Cualann housing sold these 3 bed (A) houses in Ballymun for €178K.

O Cualann paid DCC €1000 per site and I think they take 5% of the purchase price to cover their development costs. A developer would be putting 15% to 25% on the costs.

I saw a social housing development by Kerry County Council of 56 houses of 3/4 beds cost on average €220 (the development cost 12 million).

I see the cult has shifted it's views again because of dear leader costing up to Queen Lizzy.

Imagine if the leader of FF, FG or the SDLP came out and congratulated the Queen on her Jubilee. Imagine the reaction from the Cult members.

While personally I think Marylou did well you can't help but laugh at the mental gymnastics the cult members are putting themselves through.

Another good republican playing the victim card.

I notice by your posts that you are not interested in a discussion.

I also notice that you are posting on a discussion board.

Why do you want to shut down discussion on a discussion board?

Your point seems to be that an unqualified anonymous internet poster can post up any unsubstantiated claim that they want, and if anyone wants to question their claim, then they should consult some qualified person.

I wanted to discuss if it was morally correct to vote against the building of houses basses simply on the cost of building the houses (without knowing the actual cost), or if those houses should have been built.

You don’t seem to care about the discussion, instead you seem more concerned about closing down the discussion.

I do think that that is a bit strange.

Oh, and did I say: Welcome to boards.ie

Well, at least we agree that the poster jm08 hasn’t a clue about what houses cost to build, and their attempts to defend SF’s decision to vote against building houses are rubbish.

It is also great that we agree that SF are only voting against houses being built to further their own agenda.

I do find it strange that you are very happy to allow posters to make unsubstantiated claims, and that you keep defending their ‘right’ to make these unsubstantiated claims. I wonder if you will extend this to all posters and all claims?

As has been said numerous times by multiple posters, SF are opposed to certain plans on building more houses as they are not appropriate plans to tackle the housing crisis. A lot of the stuff being proposed by the government is just more of the same crap that caused the housing crisis in the first place.