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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol. No. But a damn sight better than bleating "mushroom" and similar poor attempts at one liners because you're all pissy that no one is believing your rantings.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol. Ok then. Please show the evidence you claimed to have that the EMA are not renewing due to safety.

    You keep dodging this.

    If you've "won the argument" why do you keep dodging this question?

    If you've "won" why do you have to keep resorting to very kiddie and very cute insults?

    If you've "won" how come no one, not even other conspiracy theorists are supporting you?


    Yes, clearly given how you keep lying about things and keep trying to reinvent reality to suit your agenda.

    Again, how do you gel your behaviour with your claimed understanding of 1984?

    Why do you keep lying about things?



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol "donkey". Again with the kiddie insults. So adorable.

    Why can't you provide the evidence? What "contractual issues" are you refering to?

    You've claimed several times "to be in the know".

    So if you can't actually show any evidence, how do you know what you're claiming is actually true?

    Why should anyone else believe you? Specially given how you've been caught out in several very silly lies?


    Also, why did you previously claim that the EMA don't make the decision about contracts? Were you lying then or are you lying again now?


    And why do you think that no other conspiracy theorists are supporting you?

    Must be a bit galling to know that even other conspiracy theorists are pretending you don't exist.

    Some probably even think you're a shill yourself, paid to make them look ridiculous...



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And when the kiddie insults become too embarassing for you, you switch to your claims that we are shills. This is something you've admitted is a lie, so not sure why you're going back to it.


    As for your question, that's been explained to you before.

    You are demanding an answer to a question while dodging mine.

    Try again:

    Why can't you provide the evidence? What "contractual issues" are you refering to?

    You've claimed several times "to be in the know".

    So if you can't actually show any evidence, how do you know what you're claiming is actually true?


    If you don't respond to these questions in full in your next post, that is you admitting that you can't answer them. You lied when you claimed that the contracts aren't being renewed because of safety issues, you lied about "contractual issues" and you lied about "being in the know".

    You could also just admit this directly, but you've demonstrated that you are not capable of being honest.


    This is kinda why the other conspiracy theorists would prefer you to go away. You keep exposing how silly they are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ok. So you've admitted to lying and claiming that the EMA cancelled the contract due to safety concerns. You lied about "contractual issues" and you lied about "being in the know."

    Cools.


    Now you're claiming that Denmark dropped the J&J vaccines due to safety issues.

    Ok. Prove that then. Provide a quote that shows that's the case.

    Or lemme guess, "contractual issues" "I'm in the know and you're not" "mushroom mushroom"?

    Again, if you don't provide the actual evidence in your next post, you're admitting that's a lie too.


    And no, having chances of causing blood clots that are lower than the chances due to taking aspirin is not a serious safety issue.

    Also, you keep refering to "issueS" plural. What other issues are you refering to?



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I thought that the inside information on vaccine safety issues was being provided by airline stewards who made announcements during the safety briefings on flights to the US. Now seems that Phishnet has also had to sign some NDA with those airline staff so that they can't tell us anything about it, except call everyone mushrooms.

    It's beyond wierd this one. You'd think that the medically qualified sibling might be quoted as a source for this information, but they seem to have given up on that line as nobody believed they existed. So airline staff with a love of mushrooms are now the claimed source.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Constantly changing story + compulsive lies + nothing to back any of it up = bullshit + childish name calling.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,608 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Yeah, Phishnet is just another that's been found out.

    He'll go the way of gortanna and just coward off and re reg again



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yea bares repeating that he came in here claiming that he wasn't anti-vax and wasn't disputing the safety of vaccines at all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,809 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Pro vaxxers?

    There have been 10 billion vaccine shots give. TEN. BILLION. J&J are still being widely distributed, mainly in Africa and poorer countries.

    Time to give up. Its over.

    And yeah, the Orwell thing is mega cringing. Garden variety, pedestrian.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The argument seems to be along the lines of because Betamax lost the market to VHS, therfore Betamax is a dangerous technology.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ya know, pro vaxxers. Us round earthers. We evolutionists. The people who believe in germ theory. Heliocentrists.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And apparently Denmark are a bastion against the global conspiracy.

    But for some reason still endorse the other vaccines... cause they're still part of the conspiracy I guess? Just not the one behind J&J that all of the rest of Europe are involved in?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,809 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I mean, I assume none of us wanted to be in the position where we felt we had to take a vaccine but you know, covid and all.

    Anyway in the interim (until the next conspiracy) Im seeing a lot of bog standard conspiracies popping back up. Moon landings, holocaust etc.

    Regarding the posters who have all vanished, I genuinely hope theyre gone because they are off mending relatonships that they've damaged over the last 24 months.

    There have been dozens of people on here claiming all sorts in that time, accompanied by crying laughing emojis - they want to kill all small business, martial law, 5G in the vaccines, Bill Gates tracking us but at the same time wants to kill 4 billion people, NWO, the Jews, Covid doesnt exist, deep state.

    A shambles of a couple of years for some people. Lot of humble pies been eaten so far in 2022.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,998 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Your only contribution to this thread has been to repeatedly and belligerently attack vaccines in any way possible. You are flanked by insane people in this thread who think satellites aren't real, that Covid was a plague sent by satan/god, etc. I see you are banned on the main thread on the normal Covid forum. None of these replies are for you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Unfortunately I think for some of them, that isn't what will happen.

    Like with religious cults that predict the end of the world, it only causes a small dip in their membership in the short run. The few who leave cause they realise they've been conned are few and far between. And like in these cults, very few of them go back and explain to the others what made them change their minds. Partly out of embarrassment and partly because the leaders of cults limit communication between their followers and apostates.

    We see similar here as no conspiracy theorist has ever admitted to being wrong. And we see that on the social media sites they frequent, dissent and questioning is forbidden, shouted down and ignored.


    What I think will happen is that a lot of believers will just drift to more extreme right-wing conspiracy beliefs. A similar thing happened to falt earthers and Qanon believers. The grifters in those circles see people who are venerable and who are desperate for a believe they can use in place of a personality. The believers will be attracted to those beliefs because they will be more open and vague, thus will still seem to be valid, and their more extreme nature will get them more attention to play into their fantasies.


    I don't think we'll be seeing much about moon landings and 9/11 in the future as those theories aren't as profitable and attention grabbing any more.

    But things like "the great replacement" is very common and provokes a ton of reactions given that it's pure racism. We'll be seeing a lot more of that kinda stuff I think.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    There's a great podcast on BBC sounds called "The Coming Storm" that delves into the roots of QAnon, in particular, and other conspiracies in general. Well worth a listen, although a lot of people here are probably already quite knowledgeable about this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,809 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    And I forgot about the Great Reset. 2030 is the date right? So theres another 8 years of "we'll see".



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    They’ve gone quiet on they because they can’t read the book. Too many big words in it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    "It's just around the corner." "This was just a test run." "we stopped it from happening with our link dumping/prayers." "It's happened already it's just in secret."

    Loads of ways to preserve religious faith in the face of facts.


    Will be funny to see them go through it all again until 2030 and then again with whatever comes next.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,998 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    "J&J covid vaccines have serious safety issues" - Out of 17 million, 9 are suspected to have died. One out of two million people. Keep in mind that's up against the chance of contracting Covid and dying from it which is exponentially magnitudes higher. One or two governments in the world, with very high vaccination rates have decided to drop it and allow people pick from the others. And you are utterly hysterical over that.

    Lord help you when you step into a car or take paracetamol.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,679 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I predicted that it would be dropped due to lack of demand, you have shown 0 proof that it was down to any safety issues.

    You still have your quotes wrong, minitrue would probably try and hire you at this stage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,640 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    "Critical thinking" is such a meaningless phrase and is more used for parody now due to conspiracists trying to sound intellectual.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,998 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Out of 17 million 9 died I can back that up. How many have died according to you and source?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,998 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Another anti-vax conspiracy theorist claims Reuters is part of the conspiracy, so which is it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,998 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    At least one poster on this forum has claimed Reuters is part of a vaccine conspiracy, and most anti-vax conspiracy theorists here have claimed that "mainstream media" is part of the conspiracy. You have claimed governments have "puppet masters". It's hard to tell who is being sarcastic.

    I'll wait for your source on the J&J deaths

    "Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 vaccination is rare. TTS is a rare but serious adverse event that causes blood clots in large blood vessels and low platelets (blood cells that help form clots). As of February 3, 2022, more than 18.2 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 57 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine and later developed TTS.


    CDC has also identified nine deaths that have been caused by or were directly attributed to TTS following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination. "

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,998 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    So the figures by the CDC are "fake" according to you. Right. But you can't supply alternative figures.

    And you've also decided that Denmark have decided to stop using the vaccine based on your views, on figures, which you can't provide or support.

    According to you, Reuters is infallible, so here's Reuters not labelling the CDC figures fake:




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,679 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    You made so many posts, and still have no evidence of anything, nothing you can prove or do bar name calling.

    And also a complete inability to understand why countries would pivot towards more efficacious medicine over another.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,998 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Studies have suggested an approx one in two million chance of a rare fatal blood clot with J&J.

    Do you understand a 1 in 2 million chance yes or no? I don't think you do.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭whippet


    dont waste your time trying to argue with this poster ... he is just trolling at this point winding you up.

    he is so concerned with the safety of vaccines he had no problem getting doubled jabbed so he could fly somewhere

    just ignore



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