Hyundai Ioniq 5

Test drove one yesterday. Dealer explained that price has gone up for all options? Also, that executive plus are now coming in without sliding console, even though it's part of the spec. Premium coming in without ambient lighting. That some premium plus came in with the sunroof when they shouldn't have and customers didn't want them. That there's other extras on premium plus that they just aren't doing anymore and it's a mixed bag with what you might get. That some customers had different colour trim than what they had wanted. Basically said that there could be any amount of differences to the car you'd picked out and you just have to go with it. That they can't guarantee me they can get the car I want and I have to put a deposit in before they can even get an idea of how close they can get it for me. If I'm paying out that much for a new car I'd want a decent idea of which one I'm getting. Starting to wonder would it be better off waiting till next year and putting in an order early.

Yeah it's not great and happening with other cars also, seller's market and if people don't take it there plenty more customers to take me. I would think it'll to take at least 2/3 years before it gets near to a buyer's market, when chip crisis gets sorted and backlog gets cleared.

When you say premium plus came with sun roof do you mean the vision roof as that was always in the spec. People in the UK very unhappy as that's not part of UK spec.

I got all features advertised on spec for premium plus but there others starting to drop a bit now.

I see that with a lot of first release of cars initial ones loaded (but sometimes buggy features). They tend to figure out the standard over time and get more consistent.

Yep vision roof was one of the main reasons I went for the premium plus. Madness someone would turn down that especially when you can close it and pretend it not there 😁

I ordered around the same time as you and had two choice colours but had to pay the deposit.

Had an interesting conversation with the dealer when they tried to charge me the January price rather than what was agreed in November.

Spec communicated to me in November for premium plus and what I got too.

Out of curiosity have they taking out yet any dpec for premium plus yet?

We already have ours and it came loaded as advertised and no price change was even mentioned. We ordered ours last September. What was the January pricing they said to you?

The only thing that really bothered us when ordering were the colour options for interior and exterior. Seeing that other countries you can mix and match whereas we get what they have chosen for us.

Why a problem with PCP?

I’m waiting for my L2 charge point to be installed at home. In the meantime, I’m trying to use the supplied L1 portable charger & every time I initially connected it, my fuse board tripped. Nothing significant running in the house ie no washing machines or dryers. I changed the amperage on the 3 pin charger transformer down to 6 from 10 & it worked successfully without tripping, albeit as expected it’s slow. But it got me to 80% over about 16 hours.

However, I tried the 6 amp charge again today & the board tripped ! Again there were no big appliances operating on either occasion.

 Is the charge level on the car a factor here ? The first time on 6A we were 38% going up to 80%. Today we wanted to top up from 68% to 80% & it tripped.

 Thoughts appreciated.

The common misconception is my experience hence why I held on to the car and privately financed from there. Look at the contract and see what the penalties are outside the milage allowance.

It fine when the 2nd car market is good but a few years ago not as easy to sell 2nd cars and know people who had to tied themselves into another PCP same model car but new and their PCP payments went up.

Gives a good overview https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/i-need-a-new-car-and-pcp-seems-too-good-to-be-true-is-it-an-expert-weighs-in-4076742-Jun2018/%3famp=1

Thanks. I know so many people wishing that they didn't get onto the PCP roundabout although with a battery car I thought it might be an idea. I'm going to wait until 222 plates are out before I buy.

I'm just trying to understand, when you say people got badly burned on trade ups due to mileage penalties, what penalties were there. I'm genuinely trying to figure it out before I take out a other PCP. Is there a PCP that penalises you in some way if you trade up? I thought the mileage penalties are there only in situations where people hand the car back. In other words, they have to cover themselves in situations where someone does mental mileage in a car and hands it back after 3 years and it has 300k on it and is worth nothing like the GMFV. In that case the contract has a certain amount per km over the agreed limit in the contract. So that's the only situation where you could get burnt by high mileage. In all other situations your mileage affects you the same as it would affect you regardless of what type of finance you have taken out I would have thought., Does it not? For example. You take out a credit union loan for 6 years on a 30k car at 8% interest rate. After 3 years you've done 200,000 km in it and it's worth 15k. You continue paying your normal payments that you set out in the beginning regardless of the value. Another person takes out PCP on the 30k car. For first three years they pay maybe 1.9, 2.9 or 5.9 interest rate. At the end of three years the car did 200,000 km and is worth 15k. The GMFV is maybe 18k. They continue finance for 5.9% with the dealer or they take out finance elsewhere to pay the dealer and continue making their repayments. In both cases, the amount of mileage made absolutely no difference and there was no penalties. I know because I took out PCP at 0% for 3 years and then 5.6% for the next 3 years on the GMFV payment. If I took a loan with any other institution in the country I would have spent far more on cost of credit. And my mileage is extremely high. I can't see where I was penalised? Am I missing something?

The mileage penalty only applies if you hand the car back.

Also there is no need to stay with the same model or brand car, you can trade in a PCP car with any garage.

I not sure you can trade it in with any garage until you have the balloon payment made or have agreement from the finance company. As your with say VW bank and balloon payment left you can't trade it with say a Hyundai garage as you don't own the car.

I might have misunderstood the above. I was getting terrible trade ins (even buy my car) zucar was 1.5k better than any dealer including the one I bought the car initially from.

The way I see it theres a reason why finance houses and dealers push PCP appears like low payments and also ties people in more of a chance also for them to make money.

If you don't have the cash and want a nice car with low payments but potentially won't own it for 7 years out right (reason I went with PCP last time). Circumstances different this time also benefit of credit union loan is you can pay off early without penalty.

They were touting PCP at one stage as the new sub primes but thankfully economy has taken off again and chip crisis made 2nd hand and GFMV better (clouds and silver linings).

Could anyone tell me the correct tyre psi to use ? I've the executive model with 19" tyres. Had a slow puncture and asked the guy to reinflate to 37psi as this is what I had read somewhere..he inflated it to 51 psi stating that this is what the tyres are rated for .. can anyone shed light on what their own are on? 51 seems far too high ..Thanks

Thanks , I just remember people saying they did test drives and the psi was around 50 also

Each car has a sticker on the B pillar on the driver’s door side low down showing the correct pressure for the tyre sizes and load carried. Why anyone would use anything else is a mystery.

The reason tyres are over inflated on delivery to the dealer is that from loading on the ship to delivery off the car transporter at the dealers is often a period of up to three months with minimal vehicle movement. To minimise flat spots the tyres are inflated to their max rated pressure and should be reduced by the dealer when doing the PDI.

Has anyone located anywhere online to purchase the detachable Tow Bar?