Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power [Amazon] *Spoilers*

Well that trailer isn't getting me too excited.

Lets be honest, the film trilogy has left such a high bar to reach, it simply won't be reached.

I cant tell what story this is meant to be telling.

Nerdrotic is actually a channel that I would recommend if one is into reviews/opinion on pop stuff - the guys (comic/book fan who used to own comic book store for 10 years in LA) is actually open minded and welcome criticism and yes his criticism is sharp and brutal (and he is often quite right on the big pile of woke sh!t from recent years). He is the guy who coined "MSheU" aha.

And ya i couldn't care less to the source material (e.g. black elf, dwarf women beard etc), nothing to disrespect Tolkein because i am actually cool with whatever hell the team came up with - but ya jesus christ don't literally go against the original writer's intention on the world settings etc etc. Is like the 2016 Ghostbuster - some people can go on to make their story if they want to do XYZ rather than literally ruin some other (great) original works.

So ya even if i couldn't care less on the modernized/woke crap, it has been proven again and again that if the production doesn't respect the source material - chances is low we will get a decent product. Is like the writers forget how to write a decent story for characters while they are too busy on ticking the boxes for those PC woke crap. My expectation was "ok lets see..." and then now "oh well...".

What is CW? Clone Wars?

I wonder if this series doesn't do well will that finish off any interest in any both middle earth adaptions. Messing with adaptions doesn't usually bode well- the Hobbit films were particularly terrible.

Tbh, just need to look at the WoT series to know that it's very likely Amazon will butcher this too. I've zero faith in them after that.

So, I've never been hyped for this. I don't trust Amazon (or many other studios) to do justice to Tolkeins world.

But are people really getting mad about there being black Elves? And a female Dwarf without a beard?

Like it'd be nice to see all Dwarves with beards, but that's hardly 'woke', it's just lazy.

It is probably lucky that youtube doesn't allow downvotes to be visible on that trailer. Wheel of time was god awful and changed a lot from the original source material but still seemed to get good viewership figures so perhaps these sorts of controversy sells.

Its easy just to depict youtube geek culture negative commentators as the cliched comic book guys we've seen in the Simpsons, The Big Bang theory and Spaced so their sometimes legitimate concerns are ignored.

Apparently thats the pitch.

But then they are dragging Galadriel, Dain IV, Elrond, Celebrimbor, Isildur and others into it so they are trying to be original while dragging characters from the actual Tolkien stories into it....

I cant see it working at all like literally none of it can be within an arsès roar of being anyway canonical to anything in Middle Earth so whats the point?

Well, I was just commenting on the "Uproar" online (feverish Youtubers) about woke this and agenda-pushing that. People claiming "I'LL NEVER WATCH THIS WOKE CATASTROPHY!!!!!!EXCALAMATIONMARK!!!"and then bemoan the lack of Fantasy on TV.

As for the inclusion of Elrond and Galadriel, while it may be inconsistent with the books, one must remember that these are adaptations and they need to have as much crossover appeal as possible to gather as big an audience as possible. This may be distasteful for some but it is purely a business decision. You must remember, as popular as the books are, they are trying to reach a MUCH bigger audience. Hence the inclusion of "Oh cool, it's a younger version of yer man from the movie". They need a way to lure people in. The movies were MASSIVELY popular of course, and Game of Thrones was also hugely popular. But they can't go down the Thrones hardcore sex and violence avenue and, let's ne honest, LoTR would be pretty damn high on the "nerrrrrrrrrd" scale.

They will also want the ability to tap into the lore. It may not be as deep as one would like but again, business. Ask yourself, if it was a choice of having Galadriel nd Elrond in and actually have a series or have to abandon the series if they had to stick too slavishly to the lore, which would you prefer? (And I'm not saying you want them to stick slavishly to Lore).

So, in my opinion, it is a forgivable inclusion. (Unlike Legolas' inclusion in The Hobbit trilogy or.... y'know, the Hobbit trilogy in general)

Spot on analysis by the Critical Drinker.

Another Mary Sue female lead, no thanks.

The showrunners for this don't seem to have had many previous scripts developed, they wrote Jungle Cruise, and their script for Star Trek Beyond was ditched inplace of that heap of dung by Simon Pegg.

The trailer looks visually cheap, with poor cgi and ungraded video. Its not using grit and sepia'd tones to convoy a realistic world. Everything looks artificial.

Bear Mc Creary seems to be one of the few positives.

Well the biggest thing would be either original story OR canon story for a start.

After that I'd give either a go as I love Tolkiens world. Just not this bâstardised middle of nowhere gack.