The Canada Convoy

Being liberal or not has nothing to do with the honking of horns 24/7. People of all political persuasions have the ability to congregate and honk horns. So it’s more of an asshole thing.

Read what people are saying. It’s often not what you think they are saying. I thought I was quite clear but you’ve totally misinterpreted or misunderstood.

The ‘hate’ remark is quite strong and completely used out of place. There is not one person in the world that I hate. Some of us are able to live life without hate. Sorry to burst that bubble for you.

Politics in Canada is as bad as everywhere these days. The Liberals are often in the habit, of indicating to the left but turning to the right.

As much as I disagree with these convois and the usage of the word "freedom", I would say, it's just a way of expression of discontent. This discontent might not at all be directed at one specific thing, such as vaccination. I see this often similar as Brexit in the UK and the Brexiteers, their cause of discontent might not even be found in Bruxelles but more in their own country.

To say that Canada did a good job during the pandemic is not something I would never ever agree with. The snap election by Trudeau was only about his self-centeredness and caused the Canadian tax payer close to 600 Million and produced no results for Trudeau, no significant further seats, etc.... just cost. At the same time there is the underfunded provincial health care, or high child care costs, especially in Ontario.

I also profoundly disagreed with the travel and entry into Canada regulations, mandatory hotel stays at a cost of $2000 for 3 nights to avait test results, regardless of the country you were coming from. I'd say the UK and Germany handled the travel situation way better.

The possibility of mandatory vaccination doesn't bother me at all. Also the vaccine uptake in Canada is higher than in the US, - so that convoy can only be a minority. Also truck driver associations are very distanced from these protests. I also believe that there are many protesters along with this convoy who aren't truck drivers at all.

Also life for truck drivers is not as bad as in other countries in the world, even in Europe. If you're willing to travel for 5 or 7 days a week or be gone from family for a longer time in one trip, you could easily make 100k plus p.a. In most EU countries that's not possible for truck drivers.

read the article on the ottawa protests on the thejournal.ie this morning...couldn't believe the amount of misinformation in it...

You do realize most international news and the journal just basically does a copy and paste from some other publication (associated press), they don't actually have reporters there. 🙄

Ye, I've also been watching a lot of livestreams and the difference between what's actually happening and what most media are reporting is stark.

Another good channel covering Ottawa since before this started is Ottawalks, worth a watch for anyone interested in truth.

You see everything in left and right, yeah?

It must be exhausting.

Maybe stop reading it or posting on it's sister site if you feel it doesn't fit your view, plenty out their to cater for you.

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No, I don't - but I see bias in the way the media reports.

I think any half functioning literate person would, more so if the piece is opinion and not strictly just news.

The problem is people reading things firmly with their own biases locked and loaded can't then detach themselves from their preconceived notions.

Perfect example just happened on this thread, Journal does copy and paste from the AP, same article appeared on various publications around the world.

The article itself was pretty mundane as articles go, but no, they are lying cuckhold liberals with an agenda.

Like I said it's exhausting.

The lines between opinion and news are increasingly blurred - I think you might agree?

I don't read opinion pieces as a rule, either in news or sports. I mean the pertinent players can give their opinion and I'll gladly read that and make up my own mind.

As for the protest in Ottawa, I think it would be pretty naive to think that there wasn't a fringe element to it, how big that was I have no idea, but I would be willing to have a look at any credible outlets that back up your claim.

As for the BLM marches, I think at the time I referred to them as "simpletons" but quantified that and gave them some credit for wearing masks, something you probably wouldn't get at an anti-mask rally.

I guarantee you if the protests were about anything remotely critical of Government the media here would have pulverised them as granny killers, etc

Not a sterling guarantee TBH.

The rather substantial mica and pyrite protests would suggest not.

Oh right, which "misinformation" contained in the article have you issue with?

Wow, trudeau is really making himself look bad with this. The protests are completely peaceful. It's just the government freezing bank accounts and compelling companies to comply with their orders under threat of punishment. Totally normal and not complete authoritarianism.

Is a siege a peaceful protest?

Just imagining Drogheda trying to put a fine on Cromwell, and him bitching about how his right to peaceful protest is being taken away

If recent polling is to be believed the majority of Canadians want him to bring in the military to clear them and want them fined and jailed.

IF Trudeau is making himself look bad it seems to be because he is too soft on them.

Weird "complete authoritarianism". 😂

The US have the same mandate.

I don't see how talking longer would have solved anything.

The protesters want an end to all mandates or the government overthrown.

Not a great starting point.

Some of which the courts rejected but copying other countries is not making decisions, especially copying one that has dealt with COVID so consistently badly. Is it really the right one for a country with over 80% vaccinated? It's a choice they made and they've dug in but the political megaphone stuff is a very poor look. Sure a lot of the protesters don't know what they want and demand all manner of incoherent things but who knows what they have set in motion for themselves in the future.

Overthrowing the government is not exactly showing clear thinking.

They rejected the federal mandate. People angry during COVID is really another symptom of the disease. It's in the protesters and it's in the population. I question the need and timing for the mandates. When this protest disappears and COVID with it in due course, it's unlikely we'll see such an approach again. Many strategies used during this were because of how unprepared we were to deal with this.

It's one of the biggest part of the issue imo. Some protests are given kid gloves and are approved cos members of the media agree with it and then others are villified. All protests should be treated the same imo otherwise it just invites trouble. Like in Canada, there were lads burning churches and they were let go on, so you can't really complain when another group comes along and does similar.

Any Canadians who are for this act, can't complain when these powers are used against them at some point. And they will be.