Time to try an EV. Opinions sought.

Another one worth having a look at is the new Hyundai Ioniq 5, good value at about €39K for the 58kWh Executive version, well equipped and roomy if you can do without leather etc.

I’d recommend buying new at moment. Lots of cars would meet your needs for commute so it’s up to you after that really. I love my Id.3.

Aa above you are in price bracket for this. Great value, great range, size and some nice extras that only more expensive cars have. Drawback is the delivery now which most brands are suffering due to chip shortages. No ones walking into dealers and walking out with cars these days unfortunately. So second hand your paying over the odds.

Personally. I don't think the sunroof and leather seats is worth the price over the excite model.

How much extra for that? That's a shame about the delivery. I was considering it because my jag is throwing up false ad blue faults to beat the band plus I was hoping to avoid servicing in October

Des that mean the only EV for immediate delivery is the Leaf?

Firstly, imo, go EV or stay Petrol or Diesel. Don't go PHEV. IMO it's a fudge.

Secondly, you sound like you could adopt a dual strategy of getting a cheap(er) lower capacity EV for the local and short trips and use the 5 Series until there is better supply of good range second hand EV's.

Thirdly, do not bank on the use of a work charger. The guy in the desk beside you could also have an EV next to week !!!

Lastly, look at the cost of a new EV over 3 or 5 years vs the cost of the 5 Series over the same period. Charging at home makes running costs absolutely buttons when compared to the weekly cost of an ICE.

And don't rule out the Kia e-Niro. First registered in around April 2019 with all from March 2020 having the 11kW onboard AC charger and the wider infotainment screen.

I'd say the i3 is probably bigger than you think. It's much roomier than it looks.

On the other hand you mentioned daddy day care which may or may not work with the coach doors.

Some people find them good for fitting child seats but probably a definite try before you buy to see if you could live with them.

My first opinion is, go EV or stay ICE. Don't entertain a PHEV. IMO it's a fudge.

Secondly, get a 60+ kW car, so you can comfortably travel anywhere without worrying about charging on-route.

Sounds like a Kia e-Niro is too plain for your taste - but it is excellent I have to say

The BMW 330e is a really great car.

Also came accross the cupra born this eve, when launched might come in under budget. Nice looking car too.

Will try keep short list to 60kw or above.

Not hugely pushed on look of model 3. Would prefer the EV6 over the ID4 and Ionic 5 too. Also saw it got car of the year on one of the mags aswell. Maybe I'll try keep saving, get a test drive and place an order for early '23

Can't see that poster using 20 quid every 3 or 4 months based on his extended mileages tbh. So prob a fudge for him.

What extended mileages?

Don't bother arguing, its a waste of time, some one says don't rely on the chargers at work, get an EV instead because the guy next you might have a EV next week, now there is 2 guys with an EV wanting to charge in work for free, LMFAO. Even if you win, it reverts back to some silly clause, I meant "this" and I love phev's, my mums getting one.

If the OP is going to spend 50k, he will probably be happy with the car and what ever hardship he might or not suffer can be blamed on a local, ecars or a phev.

Viva la ReVOLuTion.

POWER TO THE P̶E̶O̶P̶L̶E̶ CARS

EQUALITY FOR ALL

Best fit in this case is 2 options and a fudge. KIA NIRO phev is 1500 euro cheaper for a fudge and I am the militant offering circular arguments to a non existent problem.

Tell him the truth about this bit " the odd trip down the country for meetings(300-400km in a day)"

This is from some one who drives a fudge, granted he wants an EV now, "Have a 2020 Niro phev ,43000km on it average 3.6l/100km up to 4.6 on long journeys (300+ km)" averaging 3.9/ 100 km.

This is from someone who drives a diesel "My 520d Long term average is 29MPG" 9.7 l/100km

The OP can make it to work and charge and make it home, without any petrol, he can drive his occasional 300 - 400 km without great expense and bothering his wife, and not spend 5k or more extra and have a great many more options, that's what I would call sensible, the BEV hammer hits and misses.

Or maybe it doesn't, great reviews of ionity here, https://ie.trustpilot.com/review/ionity.eu , maybe he will have a fantastic time charging.

One way is a fudge, the other way is rainbows and unicorns for 50 k.

Oh come on, What is the problem? I point out some facts or realities? I have a chip because I defend a particular type of car, Its not because of the OP but every one else who might read the thread and keep seeing phevs are useless when its far from the case. Just because you might not like it or is the bubble after bursting?

I'd prefer to go with my own actual experience which has always been positive on the rare occasions I have needed to use the service.

I think PHEVs are grand yokes and definitely have a place. Might even get one when we're replacing the petrol Karoq. Not sure what you mean by bubble bursting.

It's just you are coming across very aggressive, quite defensive and fairly rude.

Apologies for aggressiveness and rudeness, for defensive, sorry but no.

You will not answer a simple question on the charging network, I did not say anything on charging a BEV, you know full well how easy it is to charge at home or at work, the purchase price argument and generalisation , only works when it is used against a phev or generally referred to as a fudge.

I am going to leave it after this, I will take a rest and wait for Tet.