Housing Madness

What salaries are these people on. Qualification and saying a good job doesn't mean much. If they are well paid then they can afford in Galway if not then they aren't well paid. That is why people find what you are saying difficult to believe.

Is the goal to get this done quickly and cheaply? If so then incentives are the way. If you want to make a point and punish people your way is the one to go for it to be expensive and slow.

I think you have a moral view that doesn't really want a solution other than you seize property off people you think are undeserving.

An elderly relative has a run down house, she doesn't want to sell it nor have the money to do it up. If she did it up and then left it to a family member they pay inheritance tax of the higher value of the house. So the house lays idle. You think that property should be taken off an elderly women. See you think these properties are owned by businesses trying to make a profit by hording land and that is not always the case or even the majority.

The stick or the carrot and you want the stick but there are so many legal hurdles it won't really happen.

Yes I do think the house should be taken off her if it's not principal private residence and she be given a fair price for it.

On no planet can we have people sitting on such assets during a housing crisis.

Why the fact she's elderly matters is beyond me. She will get paid for the property in its current form. Why should the state have to fund her business if she can't fund it herself.

Another property destined for falling down or burning out is what you are promoting there

Also I might add the notion I have some moral view and want to just punish people is laughable. These people are offering nothing in a crisis other than to further the deterioration of main streets across the country. There's a block of 5 buildings for example in arklow there I drove by recently and building one and two are now burnt out with roof caved in. Having sat empty for ten years. Now the buildings next door are staring to fall over.

That's a ridiculous thing to allow to occur, we don't owe you a living as tax payers we owe the public living and workalabe towns and cities.

If you can make that building work and it's offers you a return then more power to you. If you can't or won't then get fair money for it where it can be put to good use.

She is in a nursing home which she pays for. If she let the state pay for it she have to give a large amount of it to the government. THe government are going to take her parents home from her and you have no issue with that? Well that is why legislation will not be approved because many people care about their elderly relatives and don't like pay tax and normal family assets.

I never suggested letting it fall down I am pointing out how current policy and legislation hampers development and having homes to rent. You want to double down to also pushing people due to the current policies. If you can't see why that is an issue then you have blinkers on.

I understand what you are saying and agree with the principle but I am pointing out that somebody has to pay and I don't think that should be private citizens who paid there way through life. You can disagree but do you understand?

The government made it so people in nursing homes don't rent their property. That seems an easier fix than hunting the property down to seize it would you not agree?

When I said recently that is what I meant within the last year. You are making it your business by discussing it publicly. Again you are giving no details so you have no idea about the values and what they think reasonable is.

Why do you tell us what you deem reasonable if you can't discuss their situation and then at least we will know what you are talking about. For all you know they expact a massive house in Galway city for 200k

Having to choose between different areas in Dublin is not at all comparable to choosing between Galway or Athenry.

It is not sustainable for the state for all the people who work in the city to have to live outside of it. It will in time totally erode the core of our cities. Not to mention the traffic issues this kind of short-sightedness will cause.

You do understand you are comparing median rates to defend an argument that was about a couple on high wages saying they couldn't find an affordable reasonable property in Galway? What you have proved is they should be able to afford it and the person posting the claim was not realistic or more likely just dishonest as they never spoke in real terms of value.

Where are the extra people in the city living and working?

No you didn't. I explained more and asked did you understand the different view. I think the summation is accurate because you never explained why people who own should have to give up their property at their cost when the councils are actually the worst for derelict property.

We do know the councils own the most derelict property. So maybe wind your neck back and actually see this as a failure on councils not private owners

I looked at the site again.

There are around 177,000 individuals and other entities that are designated liable persons for two or more properties (this covers 559,000 properties). Properties owned by Local Authorities and approved housing bodies are excluded from the analysis below

Average house price in dublin now over 500,000 euros and rising ....

what could possibly go wrong ..

deja vu

There is plenty of land in Galway city to build - a better question is where would all the needed accommodation in Athenry be built??

Galway is a city, it has the services and amenities already. Suggesting that everyone just buy in Athenry is madness. And what about the current residents? They would have been very naive if they believed that when they first bought their houses that the city would never change. And again, all these question can be asked of Athenry or Tuam or any other commuter town. Pushing people on well paid jobs out to commuter towns just moves some problems away, and creates even more in the form of chronic traffic.