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The Canada Convoy

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  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    Nope i am against violence at all costs its solves nothing. Sorry swords if i offended you didnt mean to i just see another alternate view being run out of the place as per usual & it makes me mad not violent just mad..



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    you ran me already so mind your own biz please & leave me to my own thoughts as you have your own thoughts its a free world still !.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.



    The Canadian government can now freeze citizens bank accounts just for having "unacceptable views " as Trudeau called it. Yeah, hilarious 🙄



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    Thats a very dangerous power, good to know governments can do this time to take all monies out of the banks .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Well the mayor of Coutts has said that those arrested with weapons weren't part of the convoy 🤔

    The mayor of Coutts told DailyMail.com that those arrests were not members of the Freedom Convoy, despite being initially tied to the ongoing anti-vaccine protests. 

    'The people who were actually involved in the arrests were not part of the blockade group,' he said. 'They were outsiders.’ 

    The mayor described the individuals as outside agitators who came to town after the protest began.

    ‘As time went on, the protest began to attract people from the outside,’ he said. ‘They were starting to attract the undesirable element. The people who were actually involved in the arrests were not part of the blockade group. They were outsiders.’




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    So they wouldn’t have been there if the protest wasn’t happening. Hmm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭HerrKapitan


    The protest did end with handshakes between the protestors and police. I don't think the police would be comfortable doing that if there were militia members amongst them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,795 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    You couldn't provide a link for your 2 word quote could you?

    But the majority of Canadians wanted him to send in the military. Go figure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The protest attracted people with guns. That is what I’m saying. Those weapons wouldn’t have been seized if there wasn’t a protest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    I'd highly doubt the majority of Canadians would want the military to turn on it's own citizens. A sample poll of Canadians does not speak for the country - Jesus, you'd think after Brexit, Trump, Nice 1, Lisbon 1, Peter Casey, etc... that the media and the Neolibs would finally see the light that their polls are usually total shyte, but alas they cling to them as some sort of justification for their anti-democratic stances.

    Stances that:

    • Upend the my body my choice through vaccine mandates
    • Seek to have military intervene against their own citizens - but by heck they'll protest over Palestine, Iran/Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... if the military is sent to intervene there
    • Support the freeze bank on accounts of ordinary citizens

    I could go on listing other double-standards, there's no shortage of hypocrisy and two-faced stances displayed by the self-appointed "liberals". Shame on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The freezing of bank accounts is an interesting one. Surely having revenue services (whatever they are called in Canada) investigate the incomes of the protesters would be a better route. I’m sure that some are protesting while living off savings, but not all. Where is their income coming from, how can they afford to effectively quit work, and is the income legally obtained?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,795 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I don't know how invoking Peter Casey is evidence to the contrary.

    But if you have anything more tangible I'll gladly take a look?

    Re the military, I have already gave an opinion on that.

    Too much risk. Reports are some of them are armed, it would just take one simpleton to open fire and lets just say it wouldn't end well

    As we saw from developments yesterday that the security reports were spot on.

    Also did truckers or anyone block ports of entry and bridges because of Iraq?

    I must have missed that.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is the perspective that we all need while looking at the convoy situation. I get that Trudeau doesn't want to be seen to cave in to their demands, but the direction of travel is towards Covid being over and he will eventually have to drop all the restrictions in line with the rest of the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭HerrKapitan


    By that logic, are you saying the rock band at the concert at the Bataclan are responsible for the terrorists bringing weapons and explosives. If there wasn't a concert, there wouldn't have been an attack on the concert.

    I wouldn't feel comfortable with my police force shaking hands with such a threat. But maybe they felt comfortable that it wasn't the same people involved.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I mean some people are comparing them to domestic terrorists. They have bouncy castles for kids for crying out loud. Monsters!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    No, I am saying that anti-vaxxers often come from the extremities of society, and the potential to attract armed individuals is much higher than more inclusive and peaceful protests. It should have been anticipated by organisers, but as they want to stick it to the man, it probably was and they didn’t care.

    However, the fact that they came armed and handed them up without using them shows them for the eejits that they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Meanwhile in Ireland, the normality that those truckers wanted returned is already in place and society is doing just fine

    Do the people on boards who despise those truckers ever pause to think about that? That perhaps you're just a wee bit mental and easily lead?


    Probably not. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,795 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Pretty sure there is vaccine or testing mandates still in place if you want to travel to a vast number of countries from Ireland including to North America.

    What is a wee bit mental though is that the mandate for truckers could end now but they still won't be allowed travel across the border.

    Seems like they haven't really thought it through, have they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭HerrKapitan


    Ah OK, my mistake.

    I was commenting on the anti-mandate protests.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    We already saw Dustin jump at the opportunity to tarnish the convoy of peace and love because of that one confederate flag waving stool pigeon. Who knows if that seizure of guns is accurate. I haven't seen any arrests made.

    Then you have covid restriction free people in here cheering for military forced clampdown. I'm just glad these types and ther authoritarianism exist mostly within the confines of the internet.

    In the real world people have seen the mask fall clean off Justins horrible reptilian face!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    I’m vaccinated but don’t think it should be forced on people.

    What I find strange is that people who are pro choice on abortion will shout about body independence but think it’s ok to force this on others. At least be consistent.

    I don’t want to be drawn into these decisions people make. Ask your doctor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,795 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    What I find strange is that people who are pro choice on abortion will shout about body independence but think it’s ok to force this on others. At least be consistent.

    I imagine the sorts in North America who would be anti vaccine would also be staunchly anti abortion.

    You are not going to get consistency in incoherence.

    We won't even go near the false equivalence of abortion versus a deadly pathogen that can overwhelm hospital systems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    What an absurd train of thought.

    Should a niteclub owner shut their doors in case their venue attracts some creeps with stashes of Rohypnol in their pockets looking to harm and rape victims?

    The problem here is, there is a whiff of centre-right politics off this anti-mandate protest event and that just can't be left sit with some - it has to be tarnished with derogatory commentary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,795 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    there is a whiff of centre-right politics off this anti-mandate protest

    Really, I thought a tenet of the centre-right was the upholding of law and order?

    When did that change, did I miss a memo?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    With a right to peaceful protest. You're confusing centre right with far right and far left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Were the gun owners going to close the bridge if there wasn’t a protest? No hint that it was a possibility. However, as specified. Anti-vaxxers held the protest and they are often, and attract the extremes of society. Who goes to a peaceful protest with a weapon? It should have been predicted by the organisers….but they probably didn’t care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,795 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's not peaceful though is it, it's disruptive and lacks order and is fiscally quite damaging, another bug bear of the centre-right.

    Probably why the centre right in Canada or what's left of them are calling for the restoration of peace and order.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    So the protest took illegal guns off the street. Fair play to the lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,281 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    My understanding is that even if they get rid of the Canadian state mandates the truckers will have to deal with American individual state mandates. I could understand more if this happened last year but it wouldn't be too optimistic to think the rules on testing/ having Covid passports may disappear in the next few months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    How do you know they were illegal guns? It wasn’t mentioned in the RCMP statement.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    What right would the RCMP have to seize legally held firearms from people??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Maybe you should read the article. It has quotes from the RCMP statement.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Yes, it states that the holders were from a "criminal organisation". I'm fairly sure you can't get a gun legally if a member of a criminal organization, and if you do and turn up at a protest willing to shoot cops, you are using the firearms illegally. Making them ........................................ illegal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao



    I’m not saying that they weren’t illegal, just that the RCMP never specified it. Every one could potentially be held legally, but we’re taken to the protest with the aim of being used illegally. However, when push came to shove the gun toting tough guys didn’t put up a fight.

    I’m not sure why you picked up on the illegal guns point unless you had no other counter to the original post you replied to and just felt you had to say something.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    No protest, no fringe lunatics and no gun seizures. Fair play to the convoy for smoking these crazies out and getting some serious firepower off the streets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The guns were taken to the street by protesters. No protest, no guns on the street in this case. Fair play to the cops for taking them off the streets.



  • Posts: 5,869 [Deleted User]


    Funny you should mention that.

    Any of the right-wing, conservative, anti-woke, whatever-you-wanna-call-it protests or gatherings I've seen over here in Ireland have, almost 100%, been populist bullsh1t smokescreen as a means to recruit the easily-led (not lead, as you put it) into something else. From what little I've read about the 'freedom convoy' this appears also to be the case. Justin Barrett and his feeble-minded goons subsuming the Roderick O'Gorman protest as a means to usher in anti-EU sentiment being a prime example.

    Some of the organisers are extremely white-supremacist in their outlook, openly waving swastikas and Confederate flags, for some reason. One of the head honchos said that those who don't want to protest might as well "drop a load of coins down the stairs and change your name to Ching chong". Others have issues with Canadian politicians who weren't born in Canada. They were walking around pissing on war memorials and on the grave of the unknown soldier, a scumbag move irrespective of your stance on war. They took over a homeless shelter, demanding they be fed before the actual homeless guys (for free, I might add) and harassing the staff (volunteers, I might add). They assaulted a person standing by the side of the road when they raised their camera to record them. They were racially abusive towards an ice cream shop owner, then did the same to healthcare workers as well as assaulting them.....then threw rocks at ambulances. Three of them have been charged with conspiracy to commit murder after fights broke out in Alberta. All this on top of the usual harassment stuff, like abusing members of the public for wearing masks, blocking emergency vehicle routes, and, yes, blaring horns at all hours of the night.

    These chucklefcuks don't give a rats ass about Covid measures, masks, vaccines or anything of the like. They just hate others because of [insert BS reason here] and protests like this are just a reason to act the goat, air your otherwise-unacceptable antisocial views and maybe get a few pictures for Facebook etc. IF you're able to convince a few more smooth-brained, slack-jawed, knuckle-draggers to join in, well then that's fine by me, chief. The more the merrier. Oh, and we can scrape a few quid together while we're doing it, despite that being the absolute definition of socialism, which we abhor? Sign me up. We'll attach a name that they love.....Trump Train is already taken, and a little too in-your-face......we'll call it Freedom-something, that'll get the rednecks foaming at their lone tooth.

    There are a few mental and easily-led (again, led not lead) idiots in this equation, alright, but you'd better double-check which side of the equals sign you're on before throwing digs at others.



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber



    Have a laugh guys !!Regardless of what side of the fence you are on this video is funny.

    Post edited by bertiebomber on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Who said anything about wanting an end to tests? What the truckers called for is what is already in place in Ireland. So what exactly is radical or dangerous about their demands in your mind?

    Are you worried about the dangerous radicals running Ireland? Should we demand the same level of restrictions as are in place in Canada?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Thanks for throwing out paragraphs of unrelated guff that have nothing to do with my post. Have you considered a blog or tumblr account for that sort of stuff? Good to see the old fifth column tactics still being punted in some quarters, stick with it, people might actually believe that a plant with a swastika has anything to do with anything.

    The below are the stated demands of the truck convoy protest

    • Terminate all vaccine passports, including inter-Canada passport systems.
    • Eliminate mandatory programs of vaccination and contact tracing.
    • Respect the rights of those who wish to remain unvaccinated.
    • Cease the divisive rhetoric attacking Canadians who disagree with government mandates.
    • Cease limiting debate through coercive measures with the goal of censoring those who have varying or incorrect opinions.


    You can post about those if you like



  • Posts: 5,869 [Deleted User]



    If you read and were able to understand my post, you'd realise that the point i'm making is that the stated demands are nothing but a smokescreen to dress up like nazis, spout bile without being ignored, and radicalise gullible fools into joining your "I hate Brown people but I'm not allowed say that so I hate whatever's the current cause-du-jour and i hate brown people" cult




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,281 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I think its a bit much to tar the truckers as racists because you don't like their message. I think though it was an unofficial government policy in most countries to make life difficult for anti-vaccers to coerce them to get the jab, which is wrong. However anti vaccers don't do themselves a favour in some of their rhetoric. Fro example Djokovic admitting that the vaccines were important in combatting Covid but still not willing to get the jab himself. That seems like they want to live with the benefits of most of the population getting the jab without taking the risk of getting the jab themselves but painting themselves as some sort of heroes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Canada is a very diverse nation , I know that because I lived there. But you don't need to have lived there to know that lots of those truckers come from all walks of life are are all sorts of different ethnicities.

    That post only says your mind is no longer your own. Nobody comes to those types of crazy conclusions unless they've allowed themselves to be brainwashed and indoctrinated by years worth of brutal far left dogma.

    Even life long liberal Bill Maher can see that the only Nazism being exhibited here is coming form straight from Trudeau. . Tbh , I see your post as a cry for help , nothing more.




  • Posts: 5,869 [Deleted User]


    You keep claiming others are so far indoctrinated, yet refuse to open your eyes to the truth.


    the only Nazism being exhibited here is coming form straight from Trudeau

    .....and the guys waving the nazi flags with swastika armbands, what about them? Or the guys who organised the whole thing and their open hatred of Jews and brown folk....they don't qualify as Nazis, do they not?



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  • Posts: 5,869 [Deleted User]


    I'm not tarring them as racists.

    I'm tarring them as Nazis, not because I don't like their message, but because they're either walking around dressed like nazis and throwing nazi salutes, or they're okay with being associated with those who dress like nazis and throw nazi salutes.

    That's it. That's the be all and end all.

    Guilty by association. If you lay down with dogs, you'll wake up with fleas. Nazi fleas.

    I happen to like the message that is, supposedly, being sent. But if the guy spreading that message has a swastika armband and flag over his head, I'd do everything in my power to disassociate myself from him and let everyone know that he doesn't speak for me.

    The truckers haven't done that, rather they've embraced the nazi leaders, so they can go and shite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Do you know that many of the protesters are in fact "brown people"? Shocking, I know.



  • Posts: 5,869 [Deleted User]


    Yep, I'm not denying that. I'm saying the people who duped them into protesting think they're a lower class of life form because they're a different colour to them. I'm not sure how many different ways I can explain this to you all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    One thing you are consistent with is being inconsistent and borderline incoherent in your ramblings where you call the protestors racists (white supremacists), then say they're not, but are nazis. Some mental gymnastics going on there - Nazis were far left fukin racists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Ah right, what percentage of the convoy protestors would you say are Nazis?



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