Sacked doctor sues former employer for refusing to call trans-woman "she"

Basic common sense has been happening for decades. Trans women have been using womens toilets for decades and there have been zero issues. Zero reports of all these predators. This is just pure hysteria about a problem that isnt a problem.

Basic common sense already prevails - it’s completely irrational to discriminate against any group of people in society on the basis of guilt by association. It’s why laws already exist to protect individuals dignity and privacy so that people like the doctor in this particular case don’t have the right to subject anyone to humiliation, degradation and a violation of those same social norms which you wish to protect.

It’s why there is no real desire, demand or support for the idea of excluding people from equal participation in society on the basis of guilt by association, whether it’s limiting their access to education, employment, housing, or even just arguing that their access to go for a piss in private should be restricted on the basis of what someone who isn’t them might do. The idiot who suggested a licence for men to socialise was rightfully lambasted, yet here you are suggesting similar for people who are transgender as though they should be marked out in society and treated as though they don’t deserve the same freedoms as are already enjoyed by everyone else.

You can’t even see the contradiction between what you’re arguing against, and what you’re proposing for other people who have the same right to the presumption of innocence as you do.

Of course you know what I’m talking about - the solution you’re pretending doesn’t exist, actually does already, in the form of law.

You’re attempting to set up that false dilemma again by asking me am I saying that women shouldn’t be afraid of transgender people in their spaces. I’d say anyone, regardless of their sex or gender or religion or anything else, who thinks that way of other people, IS bigoted in some way, and their fears aren’t just irrational, they are not sufficient justification to limit other peoples freedoms either.

There already exists in both Irish and UK law exemptions to the equality acts in certain circumstances, and anyone wishing to discriminate against an individual must have reasonable justification for doing so as a means of achieving a legitimate aim. This is decided on a case by case basis when someone claims they are the victim of unlawful discrimination, such as the doctor in this case, and his belief that he was the victim of discrimination on the basis of his religious beliefs.

He is unsatisfied with the outcome of the Employment Tribunal and so claims to be taking his case to the High Court. The point is he has recourse in law when he feels he is being treated unjustly. Everyone has that right. Some people wish to deny others that right on the basis that they feel those people are being unreasonable.

Effectively what they’re saying is that they want the right for themselves to be regarded as being above the law which applies to everyone in society equally, so that they alone have the authority to disregard other peoples rights for whatever reason they wish. I have no doubt you can see why that wouldn’t work, because you’re not stupid, and it doesn’t suit you to pretend you are.

The figures of predatory violence in toilets by trans people are absolutely and utterly negligible.

Approximately 0.01% of the Irish population have gender recognition certs. This is just completely off the wall hysterics over nothing.

Fun Fact

The term Non-Binary was invented by Hollywood celebrities.

Since the introduction of this term , which is regarded as being under the 'Trans Umbrella, so effectively Trans , the number of official trans people has doubled!

Here's another fun fact

Trans people are not a 'group'. They are people with a trait, so in the same way red heads are not a group, neither are Trans people a group.

Gay people are a 'group' because their trait binds them to other gay people, in a way that being trans doesn't bind them to other trans people.

It's a bit tricky to legislate for people with a trait, when they aren't a group.

I think there is no such thing as a big Trans movement, it's all pushed by people who love to upset one's idea of what they believe. I.e. by anarchists. That is why this thread exists.

I know you have problems with trans people because of your previous experiences which you have previously said on here. You clearly have no respect for them at all by forcing them to you use toilets that dont match their gender. Your position doesnt really matter though at the end of the day. The vast majority of people dont give a crap at all which toilet a trans person uses.

Statistically the violence is pretty much close to zero because there are so few cases.

Its just a complete non problem.

Your views on how trans people should be forced to do what you want absolutely shows you disrespect all trans people.

A long winded way of saying the op is upset he cant be a dick

Cue the "I don't condone attacks/abuse... but I understand why it happens" routine.

And where do you wish to be able to send your trans son or trans daughter?

We've already had some of that