The Canada Convoy

MilkyToast · 17-02-2022 11:58am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645178#Comment_118645178

In a time of instant global communication, any big thing that takes off on Twitter or Facebook is going to spread quickly and gather support that isn't necessarily from the country of the issue's origin. Whenever that country is not the US, US donors and/or participants will be a major segment, purely as a result of how dominant they are in terms of numbers in the anglosphere.

Canada has a bit more than 10% of the US population, so even if half of donors were US donors, it still wouldn't say much about whether an issue was primarily grassroots in the locality.

A similar thing happened in reverse with BLM donations during the 2020 riots after George Floyd's murder, but in reverse. Millions in donations poured into the US from all over, despite many of the countries donations came from having their own BLM chapters or alternate anti-racism organisations already. It's just a function of technology.

bertiebomber · 17-02-2022 12:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645378#Comment_118645378

I always said it - get your monies out of the banks, this is why they close branches and promote on line banking so they can shut you out at the drop of a hat. Bury it in the garden just reclaim it from the baxtards. What is happening in Canada should be an awakening for us all, they can all do what True-dick is doing !!

Mike Murdock · 17-02-2022 12:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645387#Comment_118645387

Should have been in tatters long before given his sordid history of Blackface and Sexual Assault.

Boggles · 17-02-2022 12:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645387#Comment_118645387

That's the conservative transport spokes person, who has done a complete 180.

She fanned the flames at the start, but now like the vast majority of Canadians want them gone.

They need to move from the blockades, that's illegal. Whether it's on a bridge, whether it's a pipeline or a highway, we can't have them blocking critical infrastructure,"

Talk about speaking from both sides of your arsé.

BruteStock · 17-02-2022 12:37pm

She called Justin out for shamelessly smearing people as Nazis. Since when has she done a 180 on that stance? You appear to be a bit confused

Boggles · 17-02-2022 12:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645833#Comment_118645833

You need to watch the full video, not just the heavily edited exchange posted here.

Basically she is ranting and raving about a protest she fully supported on one hand and then another calling them criminals that must go.

Pick a lane FFS.

Sudden Valley · 17-02-2022 12:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645387#Comment_118645387

Is this your opinion or has there been any opinion polls around Trudeau's current actions regarding convoy? I think if truckers were blocking Dublin's streets or bridges with Northern Ireland I doubt any actions against them would be that unpopular.

BruteStock · 17-02-2022 12:57pm

The tweet I posted wasn't pertaining to the convoy. So did or did she not do a 180 on Justin smearing people as Nazis?

Boggles · 17-02-2022 1:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645935#Comment_118645935

Huh? What do you think it was pertaining to? 🙄

Anyway there is the full video, they seem to have forgot to clutch the pearls about the confederate flag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmQghqnni4k

Anyway, it's pretty simple she fully supported the protest, until the true colors emerged now she calls them criminals that must go.

So basically she poured a shít load of petrol on the fire and is now crying wambulance because people are getting burned.

BruteStock · 17-02-2022 1:05pm

https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2022/02/13/2662060/half-of-canadians-say-trudeau-not-up-to-job-poll

BruteStock · 17-02-2022 1:07pm

You can be anti convoy and also anti name calling people as racist, nazis etc.. What's where that woman stands apparently

Boggles · 17-02-2022 1:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646002#Comment_118646002

You didn't watch the video obviously, she didn't even mention the comments in her exchange.

Just a tip, don't watch heavily edited twitter videos and expect to get the full picture.

But as a rule of thumb, no politician should fully support something on one hand and call them criminals at the same time.

It's not a great look.

Boggles · 17-02-2022 1:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645983#Comment_118645983

Same polling company

a majority (68%) say that regardless of political stripe, the politicians who have contributed to or supported these protests should be voted out of office

a vast majority (82%) say that there is no way this protesting should have gone on as long as it has

two-thirds (66%) of Canadians support Prime Minister Justin Trudeau bringing in the Emergencies Act to give the federal government extra powers to handle the protests across the country

This one for me is the most alarming and shows that Canadians are done with the anti vax protest

a majority (67%) believe that it's time to clear out the protesters in Ottawa, even if it means people who will not leave may get hurt, or worse

Not a popular one Joe.

Dyr · 17-02-2022 1:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645003#Comment_118645003

Protestors generally have demands

You might think the word is problematic, unlike freezing the legally earned funds of people who have committed no crime 😂

I do notice you're still avoding the question, why not provide us with your position on each of those demands. The ones I posted thast came from the truckers, not the one that you made up, which one the leaders of protest explicitly denied.

BruteStock · 17-02-2022 1:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646025#Comment_118646025

She demanded an apology from Justin for saying Jewish parliament members support Nazi's. Are you claiming she redacted that demand , last time asking?

btw , here's Justin taking an absolute shellacking from parliament. He's finished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQY3gnojEpE&t=51s&ab_channel=MarcelIrnie

Boggles · 17-02-2022 1:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646094#Comment_118646094

have committed no crime

You'll need to speak with the conservative transport spokesperson on that, she believes they have.

They need to move from the blockades, that's illegal. Whether it's on a bridge, whether it's a pipeline or a highway, we can't have them blocking critical infrastructure,"

As for their "demands" I thought that would be pretty obvious, but for clarity no I don't think a minute fringe of anti vax protesters should get to dictate public heath policy in a pandemic. What sort of bizarro world would that be a good idea?

Boggles · 17-02-2022 1:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646109#Comment_118646109

What are you talking about?

Conservative Party members can stand with people who wave swastikas. They can stand with people who wave the Confederate flag.

We will choose to stand with Canadians who deserve to be able to get to their jobs, to be able to get their lives back. These illegal protests need to stop and they wil.

What's the problem, was their people at these protests waving flags with confederate and nazi symbols on them?

Yes or No?

BruteStock · 17-02-2022 1:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646151#Comment_118646151

Stop inserting quotes into your posts and start communicating in a clear and conceive manner.

You have been asked a very simple question multiple times now. I'll ask it once more - Did Lantsman do a 180 on her comments specifically pertaining to Justin calling people Nazi's?

Its a very simple question that you should be able to provide a simple answer for.

Boggles · 17-02-2022 1:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646199#Comment_118646199

I never claimed she did.

Maybe read my actual posts and watch the actual video, not a heavily edited twitter link.

BruteStock · 17-02-2022 1:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646247#Comment_118646247

You responded to her comments with a non-sequitur simply because you didn't like that Justin was taking a beating. In other words defending Justin by tarnishing the integrity of Lantsman.

Plus, there was no heavily edited twitter link. Her attack on Justin was played uninterrupted. Here, just to make it even more clearer for you

https://twitter.com/MelissaLantsman/status/1494047769937461249?cxt=HHwWgoCyyf2h9rspAAAA

Boggles · 17-02-2022 1:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646306#Comment_118646306

He didn't accuse her though, did he?

Conservative Party members can stand with people who wave swastikas. They can stand with people who wave the Confederate flag.

That's conservative party member MP Michael Cooper. Getting interviewed as he takes a few selfies with these harmless protesters.

17-02-2022 2:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645273#Comment_118645273

And there we have it. You've gone down the line of great reset conspiracies. That's not smearing you, you're absolutely pushing conspiracies.

Sudden Valley · 17-02-2022 2:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645983#Comment_118645983

I would say that poll prompted his hard line approach since majority thought he was too weak on the protests

MilkyToast · 17-02-2022 2:22pm

"If there's one thing we've learned from history, it's that the people who censor and punish dissent and bring massive government power to bear on peaceful protestors are definitely always the good guys."

~Some of the posters in this thread probably.

end of the road · 17-02-2022 3:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118644638#Comment_118644638

bollox, it's anti-vaxer loons, a hell of a lot of them of the far right persuasion and rather violent.

the only ones supporting them are of similar mindsets, the majority of the canadian people want them forcibly removed as they are sick of being terrorised by these violent thugs.

fine, don't want their children vaccinated or to have to wear a mask, then take them out of school and home school them, following the relevant guidelines of the country in question on such matter, not that i expect the anti-vaxer/anti-masker types would be able to manage that.

otherwise they get the vaccine like children have got plenty of other vaccines, comply with the mask rule in the school where they are going to if one exists, same as children have to abide by other school rules.

astrofool · 17-02-2022 4:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118645273#Comment_118645273

Also, most of them are puppetry for the WEF (the long game) - 2030.

And with that one sentence, bertiebomber became bertiebombed.

bertiebomber · 17-02-2022 4:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646361#Comment_118646361

You just seem to target me you are a bully and a stalker so do one !

ceadaoin. · 17-02-2022 4:35pm

Whatever your opinion about vaccine mandates and restrictions, surely any reasonable person would agree that the government giving themselves the power to freeze the bank accounts of people who protest against them is a worrying move? It's a bit social credity isn't it? To compel private companies to follow their orders under threat of jail? Imagine if trump had tried similar tactics with blm. It wouldn't be acceptable then and it isn't acceptable now.

MilkyToast · 17-02-2022 4:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646052#Comment_118646052

a majority (68%) say that regardless of political stripe, the politicians who have contributed to or supported these protests should be voted out of office

a vast majority (82%) say that there is no way this protesting should have gone on as long as it has

two-thirds (66%) of Canadians support Prime Minister Justin Trudeau bringing in the Emergencies Act to give the federal government extra powers to handle the protests across the country

a majority (67%) believe that it's time to clear out the protesters in Ottawa, even if it means people who will not leave may get hurt, or worse

Authoritarian regimes always, and by their very nature, stem from populist opinion which discards, punishes and often murders its opponents in a frenzy of righteous moral outrage.

Understanding this remedial-level lesson from history is exactly why liberal societies have created laws which protect the right to speak, even when the words are an insult; to protest, even when the protest is inconvenient; and to assemble, even when assembly obstructs the regime's aims.

Desecrating those laws for the sake of convenience and in service to populist rage and wishes of harm and death has never led, and will never lead, anywhere good. You would think that people who still froth at the mouth at the mere mention of the name Trump would understand why setting such precedents is unwise in the extreme, whatever good feeling they get in their peepee at the prospect of seeing their political opponents bloodied and murdered on the streets.

growleaves · 17-02-2022 4:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118647639#Comment_118647639

The vaccine mandates are themselves isomorphic to a social credit system. We seem to forget how extreme disemploying people is.

Lech Walesa was prevented from working as an electrician in Soviet-controlled Poland for organising an independent trade union.

In China, people who are on Tier D of the social credit system (the lowest tier) are disemployed and receive regular visits from government officials (which is, or may soon be, the situation in Austria).

Many ordinary people, including many posters here, have made a calculation to side with power. That's all it is.

When you see posters calling for protestors to be shot dead, that more or less tells you that you ought not to waste time "debating" with these posters ever again. As if what these posters think about 2km travel limits or the budget could be of any interest whatsoever.

The Canada Convoy

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