Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Toddle on then, you've exposed yourself time after time...lies , lies and lies...

If you posted a picture of putin riding bareback , people on here will reaching for Lube 🤢

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Well you know, Russia is forced into this because Nato has surrounded it, it's Russia's right to defend itself. But not Ukraine, they have no right to sovereignty. Yes the only way for Russia to defend itself from tyranny is by destroying Ukraine. It's all fine though because you know, the Ukrainians are just Russians in denial right? I mean if you want to use democracy of course they don't see themselves as Russians but after Russia invades, murders them, inserts their political leadership, takes control of all elections and media and re-educates them, they will understand, that they were Russian all along. Really this is a liberation. Thank goodness the Russians are here to liberate their neighbours. The US are just pissed because they wanted to brainwash Ukraine into giving them all their resources.

There's like an hours worth of standup material in this thread.

Doesn’t make a difference what is said on boards. If people think we should stand up to Russia and fight back, and western leaders go with your line of thinking, we end up in a bad situation. I don't want my family killed in a potential clash with Russia because we thought it was a good thing for Ukraine to join Nato. It is all grand having opinions, a war against Russia is a civilization-ending war.Want to be off your head to not try to calm that situation down and reach a diplomatic conclusion.

A US President can be voted out sure. But the rich elites that control US politics remain in control of the country despite the wishes of the voters.

The electorate influencing the political direction of America is largely an illusion.

I dont think you understand. Appeasement has never worked. If you reward someone for aggression, you can only blame yourself when they are again aggressive in the future. If you do not stand up to them now, you will be defending your own home in the future. There is no problem if Russia wants to pursue a diplomatic route but if we allow them to flout international law, it will lead to more chaos and loss of life than a regional war. The world has had declining wars and war related fatalities since WW2 because we have international law and a world order, Russia can not be allowed to tear that progress up.

 It is not appeasement to accept Russia's demands about Ukraine joining Nato.. Think this is a logical step to avoid war. Can turn down other demands deem unacceptable.

Russia has always said Ukraine joining Nato would trigger an invasion and any attack against Crimea would be met with force.

US and Uk and major powers are still around to prevent Russia from invading Ukraine just because they felt like it someday. Nato thing will push Putin to act aggressively, Putin is trying to secure that Nato deal with the west before he leaves office. If we ignore it our fault., my view.

Yes it's the US with thousands of troops and heavy weapons in Ukraines border, threatening them and sized couple of regions back in 2014, and illegally annaxed Crimea.