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Dyr · 18-02-2022 5:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118654124#Comment_118654124

Some people think that, despite the above, obtaining ID is still too onerous a task for "poor urban voters" to accomplish. These poor urban voters are apparently simple beings who need to be championed by right thinking types for their own good.

There's a few scenarios in Ireland where the signature of an upstanding member of society such as a banker or accountant is accepted. Throwback to simpler and more rural time.

Christy42 · 18-02-2022 6:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118654124#Comment_118654124

Why do they want an ID to be required? We know it isn't because of fraud because they have repeatedly tried to prove that there is fraud and come up short. So why are they doing it? If people in Texas really, really want it for security purposes then have a campaign to ensure that everyone eligible has one. Then no one can cry voter discrimination and you get the same security. Seems like a win for everyone.

Comparisons with Ireland are nonsensical, stopping people from getting to the ballot box isn't seen as the same battle over here. The decisions on how elections themselves are run are far, far less political here. The same with the borders for constituencies. We just don't have the same baggage that is at the core of this

Brian? · 18-02-2022 6:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118654494#Comment_118654494

Ok, that’s not a point. That’s stating the obvious. Are you driving at something significant here?

fryup · 18-02-2022 11:47pm

his press conferences are painful.....he's too old he's just too old 😐️

19-02-2022 12:45am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118654929#Comment_118654929

Did you miss post 12098, doesn’t seem that obvious to everyone.

Sweetemotion · 19-02-2022 1:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118649092#Comment_118649092

Just say the demographics you mean Brian?

We all know you mean African Americans, but you're afraid to say it.

Thinking African Americans, don't know how to get Id, makes you the racist.

Good video on this here, I know it's fox but hey, whatever.

https://youtu.be/yW2LpFkVfYk

19-02-2022 1:57am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657030#Comment_118657030

I heard it coined before as ‘the soft bigotry of low expectations’. In the pursuit of helping people they treat minorities different.

For example the admissions cases brought against the universities require Asians to now have super scores to even be considered while Black and Latino students get admitted with far lower scores. What result does this have? It implicitly encourages those people not to reach their full potential.

”When teachers are asked about their expectations for black students, nonblack teachers were 30 percent less likely than black teachers to say they thought those students would earn a college degree.” Maybe it’s this kind of thinking that makes it true, unconscious bias.

Tell me how · 19-02-2022 3:13am

Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly.

HOUSTON — In his wallet, Anthony Settles carries an expired Texas identification card, his Social Security card and an old student ID from the University of Houston, where he studied math and physics decades ago. What he does not have is the one thing that he needs to vote this presidential election: a current Texas photo ID.

For Settles to get one of those, his name has to match his birth certificate — and it doesn’t. In 1964, when he was 14, his mother married and changed his last name. After Texas passed a new voter-ID law, officials told Settles he had to show them his name-change certificate from 1964 to qualify for a new identification card to vote.

So with the help of several lawyers, Settles tried to find it, searching records in courthouses in the D.C. area, where he grew up. But they could not find it. To obtain a new document changing his name to the one he has used for 51 years, Settles has to go to court, a process that would cost him more than $250 — more than he is willing to pay.

On the topic of student ID.

A federal court in Texas found that 608,470 registered voters don’t have the forms of identification that the state now requires for voting. For example, residents can vote with their concealed-carry handgun licenses but not their state-issued student university ID

This image is interesting from the article.

What do all these states have in common? Any guesses anyone?

Across the country, about 11 percent of Americans do not have government-issued photo identification cards, such as a driver’s license or a passport, according to Wendy Weiser of the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law.

In a country in which the difference between victory and defeat can be only a few hundred thousand votes, because of the electoral college, 11 percent is a massive number to be proactively trying to exclude from voting, or at least make it more difficult to vote.

The above is an old article at this point, but it shows just what work the GOP were putting in ahead of Trumps first election and they've only ramped it up since.

Link

Danzy · 19-02-2022 5:00am

The ID problem is largely in the mind of rich white saviours projecting it on to black people.

News flash people!, African Americans are well able to interact in and with their society and live functional lives despite what you think.

Tell me how · 19-02-2022 6:14am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657191#Comment_118657191

Did Tucker tell you to say that?

Tell me how · 19-02-2022 6:15am

https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1494754296948219909

Would any of the people who blame Biden for inflation like to comment on this?

Would you like to see him get involved in the free market to try to do something about this?

Brian? · 19-02-2022 7:17am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657030#Comment_118657030

That’s your own bias there. I absolutely don’t mean Just African Americans. I was actually pretty clear about that when I talked about gun permits and student ID.

I am not the one making it about race. It isn’t about race. If African Americans leaned GOP the RNC would be posting them the right ID. It’s not far away from the story of Biden winning Georgia. The local Democrat organisation put everything into making sure the demographics who lean Democratic could vote. It worked beautifully.

Brian? · 19-02-2022 7:17am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118656901#Comment_118656901

I did. Explain.

Brian? · 19-02-2022 7:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657070#Comment_118657070

Except I’m not the one talking about race. I’m not the one who read the word “demographics” and immediately jumped to a race debate. so please climb down off that high horse.

J_1980 · 19-02-2022 10:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657210#Comment_118657210

if you have rates at 0% and money supply growing at 10% buying hard assets is a no brainer.

if that nonsense stops, all this reit investment will also stop. It’s a symptom of the monetary inflation not the cause of it.

literally everything is going up. Could’ve invested in 2nd hand cars too.

all this “supply chain issues” is total nonsense. Shipping and port activities are at all time highs. There is no “bottle neck”, just too much government debt fuelled spending.

all that “created money” has to go somewhere, ie investments. If you disallow all investments it will leave the country and you end up like Argentina.

hotmail.com · 19-02-2022 12:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118654929#Comment_118654929

That, just maybe, this is overblown American rubbish as per usual.

Brian? · 19-02-2022 12:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657878#Comment_118657878

This whole thread is overblown American rubbish.

hotmail.com · 19-02-2022 12:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657920#Comment_118657920

Good point! Lol

23-02-2022 1:14am

Interesting opinion piece here on the recent Durham filings by a former FBI director. He alleges that the reason Durham hid away this bombshell information in ‘factual background’ instead of centred in an indictment was because he was worried that the Biden administration was going to shut the investigation down, as the investigation had been pretty fruitless thus far. This gives him more time.

Thanks to a routine court filing, the nation now knows the Durham investigation is no joke. He has set a ladder against a formidable wall and is climbing it rung by rung, apparently gaining cooperators and locking in testimony before a federal grand jury. There will be more squirming to come in powerful circles, but John Durham must be allowed to continue his important work.

Kevin R. Brock (former assistant director of intelligence, FBI)

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/595235-john-durham-sent-a-message-to-the-attorney-general-and-the

cuttingtimber22 · 23-02-2022 1:49am

The US needs to find a way to have a credible 3rd party system. The way things are now it would be a centrist party.

Leroy42 · 23-02-2022 11:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118676283#Comment_118676283

So basically, it is simply raising a flag to see who bites? And you have taken it as a cast iron evidence that something was amiss, despite the lead investigator, and now this FBI dude (are FBI back to being reliable again, weren't they part of the Jan 6th plot to frame Trump? it is hard to keep up).

The issue is not that Durham may find something, it is that many have already accepted his investigation as proof of something when it simply isn't there, yet maybe.

Leroy42 · 23-02-2022 11:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118676400#Comment_118676400

Why do you think it would be a centrist party?

astrofool · 23-02-2022 12:34pm

DNC are fairly central with GOP off to the right these days (and heading more and more down the authoritarian path).

23-02-2022 6:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118677301#Comment_118677301

To see who bites? He’s an investigator, not allowed to give interviews or write op Ed pieces. This is his only other way of getting information out that doesn’t come in the form on an indictment. Apparently he was worried the investigation was going to get shut down, which would have been easier to do without these revelations.

The FBI have gotten a whole lot more political as of late but I’m sure there are still good apples about. E.g. the governor Whitmer case.

Leroy42 · 23-02-2022 6:10pm

So he has prejudge the investigation outcome and used a spurious court filing to get the right wing media to push his agenda that something must be up, even though he hasn't got the evidence.

Wow.

23-02-2022 6:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118679459#Comment_118679459

Except that's an opinion, it's not a fact. The fact certain posters have claimed a Durham smoking gun for about two years is making it seem increasingly unlikely that there ever was one. No signs of any serious charges etc.

23-02-2022 6:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118679530#Comment_118679530

I noted this came from an opinion piece in my post, there’s no need to correct me. Every other headline about this case is also opinion. Everything said in the media is also opinion yet is being accepted as fact. That is that there was no spying and the Durham investigation needs to end, ‘no, Hilary didn’t spy on trump’, ‘Durham walks back comments’ all opinion, all of it all stemming from one quote from Durham.

Given these revelations it’s increasingly likely to get a more high profile indictment soon. Did you read the article from the hill? This is a sign that a more serious charge needs to be brought. Durham had motivation to show that his investigation had borne fruit in a way that wasn’t him writing a blog.

23-02-2022 6:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118679511#Comment_118679511

He didn’t want the investigation to end yet. That’s all. Here’s an opinion from the other side, a former Washington post and New York Times journalist. Who do you think presents a more reasoned case?

https://newrepublic.com/article/165437/john-durham-trump-special-counsel-sham-investigation

“If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated, or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the Government’s Motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the Government’s inclusion of this information.”

Translation: Fox News and the rest of the right-wing media, not to mention Trump himself and his Republican cultists, are out of their minds.”

compare this article with the one from the hill :https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/595235-john-durham-sent-a-message-to-the-attorney-general-and-the

Leroy42 · 23-02-2022 7:10pm

He doesn't want an investigation, for which he currently lacks evidence for his prejudged outcome, to be stopped as it still hasn't produced anything, so he uses a spurious legal filing to ensure the right wing media and Trump supporters can demand this investigation isn't stopped.

That is the reality. Yet only are they perfectly fine with that, they want to demand answers for the yet unproven allegations.

It doesn't matter what any talking head says about it. Without evidence any allegations are just that.

Plenty of investigations get stopped because insufficient evidence.

23-02-2022 7:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118679844#Comment_118679844

That is opinion. I believe a misinformed one.

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