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i think I’m interpreting correctly by thinking that Truss is saying is that this is probably or possibly very likely to escalate into WWIII..

threat is higher then anytime during the Cold War..according to the UN General Secretary… both Truss, the UK and Guterres the UN Secretary General singing off the same hymn sheet….

gaslighters..

You need to cop on with the "my team, your team" crap ... this has been brewing for decades, and to blame it all on "the American war machine" is just silly... and if you're that worried about propaganda, you'll be appalled by what comes out from Russia about all of this..

Ukraine have been looking for dialogue with Russia since 2014.

the crux of it is, Ukraine have wanted to join the EU and NATO for decades now, Russia doesn't like it, with Germany's energy reliance shifting to external sources, it is a weakness in the solidarity of the EU and NATO, Russia knows this.... France did well trying to push diplomacy, because sanctions and war on EU boarders is bad for business, and with them possibly turning into Europe's single source of independent energy, it's in their interest to keep EU cohesion in place until that happens (i.e. keep Nord Stream2 on track).

The US are playing Russia at their own game for once, but after Iraq and Afghan, people are far more sceptical of what they come out with... and Russia is playing the uno reverse card any chance they get because of this.

My personal opinion being, with the amount of ISR assets they are throwing at this situation daily, there is far more to this situation than we'll ever know. The OSINT out there points to Russia escalating this, and if the US wanted a war, there are far far cheaper and easier methods to do so rather than what is being played out currently....

But yeah, no doubt I'll be labelled team USA, get a load of gaslight responses, all for calling a spade a spade.

nah, I deal with gaslighters in real life on a daily basis... this stuff is text book.

challenge a gaslighters belief... they respond with counter that loosly relates to your counter, but picks on something you believe.... rinse and repeat until initial point is gone and argument is about you.... if they get caught out, it results in them bigging themselves up while belittling you (doesn't have to get nasty)...

speaking of which @MFPM... you had a post saying you don't spin things, but then had a spiel about Sky news warmongering.... but yet you didn't respond to my post about Russia 1 TV saying Donbass is close to having concentration camps, with Russians being gassed and that its time for Russia to step in militarily....

if not spinning, then why the dodging?

The hat does seem to fit quite nicely on your noggin Shill-y! ;)

The thing I can't fathom, is why people never seem to lose faith with America's foreign policy. No matter how many times they prove it to be disastrous, certain people still think this time will be different.

Their bull in a china shop approach to diplomatic relations, never seems to bring anything positive. Yet here we are yet again, being led down the garden path. But this time it's not a bunch of poor brown people wearing sandals in the desert, it's Putin with 6,000+ nukes in his backyard.

It's just like their aggressive approach to policing their own cities, and we can all see how well that works!

Exactly, whether we like it or not, our future is a multi polar one.

Controlling other major powers, and keeping each other in check is one thing.

But the Americans cannot accept that any other nations should have any real power, even in their own region of the world. Their attempts to dominate every other power in the world, will most likely lead to another major global conflict or several major regional conflicts.

Unless someone is brave enough to take the captain's armband off them.

And perhaps that might be something positive that could come out of this conflict. The EU might finally decide to grow a pair of balls, and show some genuine leadership qualities. One can only hope I suppose.

It's classic 'hey, look over there stuff!'

Russia has already stolen large chunks of Ukraine and is now preparing to seize the rest by force. Anyone who, when asked if they condem this, does not respond with an unequivocal 'yes!' has a moral compass that is wildly askew.

What is he getting out of it?