Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Maripol could be attacked from there, Russian forces couldn't sieze it from the Azoz batillion ,the Russians landing craft are actually sitting there too ,

Firstly I'm not a Putinbot. All of these factions - America, NATO, Russia, - are potentially evil. Also, a missile free no-man's-land could calm things. Nuclear bombs take time to go the distance and time is of the essence in war. An agreement could be reached whereby Ukraine would be a NATO member but with no missiles in its territory. There are lots of compromises that could be reached. Or else put the missiles in Ukraine and let the Russians put them in Cuba. See how the Americans would like that.

It could easily be done under the UN ,and all sides could be called and shown any videos of breeches on battle lines and asked to explain publicly what they were doing ,

There is a lot of Russian military equipment inside ukraine that doesn't belong to the Ukrainian government and a lot of it is new equipment not left over from the Soviet era

Russian troops in Moldova were stood up and put on high readiness last night in another so called Putin sponsored separatist area Transnistria

Totally agree ,

As Filatov pointed out, this can easily happen if Ukraine joins NATO. Ukraine should be able to join but only on condition NATO agrees not to put missiles there. There must be a free zone between east and west. NATO are provoking the situation be expanding eastward without restraint. There must be restraint. Otherwise the situation becomes tense and remains tense endlessly. I would not expect either side to accept this.

Why is it in the remit of NATO/US/EU to give concessions? It is Ukraine that must decide if concessions are to be made and what that are.

They may be willing to release separatist held areas in the east of the country and a ban on a NATO base in the eastern part of their country but I hope they would get some important concessions from Russia as a result. Although, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Well Russia should not do this, but that is what NATO expansion leads to. But there has to be concessions on both sides. If Ukraine joins NATO without conditions NATO can put what it likes in there. These situations are not rocket science (pun intended). The dynamics are relatively simple; keep weapons away from no man's land. But, no doubt, there are people who don't want it to be simple.

Sure Harry, and while we are at it now how about a mention of how many innocent people isis. al-quaeda, al-shabab have killed ( hint; its in the hundreds of thousands ), you think that maybe they should be held accountable too? And maybe compensation could be discussed as well? Because for sure the US will investigate that bombing, and compensation paid to the survivors, as has been done in the past. Now as for isis.......

Do you really think that if there was a war all NATO people would obey the Geneva Convention to the letter? All of the countries we are speaking about committed war crimes; Brits, Germans, Russians, Americans...

You are completely deluded.

The USA does not investigate civilian casualties any more than Russia does, in a report by the New York Times over civilian casualties on US airstrikes not a single record provided included a finding of wrongdoing or disciplinary action in relation to aerial bombing by the USA, despite thousands of civilians being killed in the last few years alone.

One thing that can be noted in any mass murder of innocent civilians by the USA, any mass murder you read up on they always tried to cover it up. Only when they get found out are they forced to admit it and add it into their official figures. The real figures of civilian deaths by airstrikes is clearly far higher than they claim it to be.

You can talk about ISIS all you want, ISIS probably wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for the illegal invasion of Iraq.