Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Troll Thread derail tactic no. xxx, start some stupid stale discussion about who "won" WW2, who was the most evil dictator (lads on here will tend to give good old Joe Stalin the benefit of the doubt I'd guess! The man was under pressure, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs!), who had the best tank etc etc. Yawn.

This is nonsense. Obviously so when all you acknowledge is Western material aid and repeatedly ignore for example things like air superiority which the Soviets would not have been able to achieve in 1944 without the Luftwaffe focusing on defence of Germany. Or all the tanks that never made it to the Eastern front because they never made it out of the factory.

So no the laurels dont belong to dictator Stalin because he was culpable in the deaths of many of those Soviet citizens through his alliance with the Nazis and purge of red army - which strengthened the Nazis and left Soviets vulnerable to assault.

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Why are you trying to deflect with atrocities committed by Stalin? Do you hate Russia so much you cannot accept the simple facts of history that the Soviet Union played by FAR the biggest role in defeating Hitler.The Soviets couldn't have defeated Hitler without help from America I agree.

I agree with you, everyone was instrumental in winning the war, from Russia to Australia they all played their part.

Are most of the commentators on this thread in their late teens, early 20's.

I was foolishly under the impression that there would be some serious, logical discussion about the issues pertaining to the current situation in Russia/Ukraine. ( My interests are purely military strategy in nature).

Instead, we get one poster who's favourite word seems to be "gaslighting", used in contexts that suggest a misinterpretation of the word and another multi-post contributer who refers to some as "putinbots" etc.

Both keyboard warriors, among many others, seem to have way too much time on their hands and basically clog up an otherwise interesting thread with vacuous nonsense.

Having witnessed both the West and Russians ( Chechyn MP's) at work in Syria over the years, its pretty clear how way off the mark many, many posters are in their assumptions.

It's basically like this: The Russians don't #$@! around, because they cannot afford to overreact.

The West always f#$#! around, because they can always afford to overreact. The West can also always be manipulated into overreacting.

Russia will do precisely what it needs to do, nothing more.

Why did the Germans lose the east then? D Day was the second half of 1944. Russia was fighting the Nazis since 1942. Watch the documentary may learn something, Soviet weaponry got better as time passed, they show all the advancements in this doc. By the way, the Kalashnikov rifle is still one of the best guns ever made.

He's flexing and toying and has the fear put into Western Media and Leaders with his Belarusian crony. Nothing huge will happen.

He has people everywhere riled up and is probably enjoying it.

Ignore him and he'll quieten.

Has somebody stolen some of your words, or what’s the story with this post?

People don't understand how Ukraine and Russia are viewed as one in Russia.

Rus, comes from the Kievan Rus.

Russia started in Ukraine.

But most understand Ukraine is a sovereign state who see ukraine as no threat whatsoever to Russia or it's security

When you use the word deluded Harry, check if it applies to yourself first,,,the US has always paid compensation to innocent victims of their attacks, A simple "Google" check would have told you that, but you are so anti-American, it clouds your judgement. As for ISIS et al, they have been around a long time before either Iraq or any of the recent wars....They go back to the time of Mohammad, if you want to see when it started. Its called Wahhabism, and its primary aim is to convert the whole world to Islam....it has had many names throughout history, isis being a more modern one. They were fighting the Russians in Chechnya ( and the locals as well, even then killing the unbelievers ) Their primary purpose in Life, even in todays world is still to kill the enemy's of Islam, and convert the unbelievers. And that was what the Islamic Caliphate was about in Syria and Iraq.

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