Male Victims of Domestic Violence

Your minimal procedure, the snip, isn't assured. You really should take a look at the failure rates behind the operation, in addition to some of the horror stories for those that the procedure "went wrong" for.

Secondly, linking the snip for men, to rape for women makes no logical sense. A man can still be raped relatively easily either through penetration, or that he is made to have sex without consent being given. If you're trying to link fertility, and the ability to have children, then the snip for men, could be compared to a few operations available to women who don't want to have children. There are options out there for women.. if that's what they want.

The problem is that some people are unwilling to accept the decisions of their partners, and attempt to bypass those decisions, in favour of their own desires.

I would say that any person being forced to have/raise/support children without their consent is a victim.. You're seeking to apply a double standard.

Nope. Haven't read it. Mostly I'm drawing on experience of my own abusive relationships (both male and female) and also that of a friend who suffered through an abusive marriage with kids involved.

What you fail to recognise is why there is such interest in making this a gender issue, and so, fight against male rights or issues.

Public attention is short and unreliable. Politics is just as bad, if not worse. Any social movement and their activists, tend to quickly realise that there is little they can do to keep attention focused on their issues, and to garner the support they need to implement change. Feminism is somewhat unique in having established itself over decades (while other movements fizzled out).. but if you look at other social movements, they struggle to maintain any kind of support for extended periods. For example, BLM sought to generate interest in their protests through the application of chaos, in the belief that such chaos would maintain the interest of the public. The simple truth is that media/technology have ensured that people, in general, have short attention spans for anything that doesn't directly affect their lives. It's one of the reasons that male rights groups have so much difficulty in gaining support from other men.. because it doesn't directly affect their lives, until it does. Feminism promoted a sense of sisterhood throughout their campaigns, but Brotherhood has been much harder to achieve for men.

As such, anything that takes attention away from that cause, is dangerous. There isn't room on the top for two victims, if it means that resources or sympathy are taken away from your preferred group. Which is why there is so much interest in discrediting, dismissing, or deflecting away from male rights or issues that might make males victims in society. It takes away from the support that is allocated to groups who exist due to the perception of women being victims in society.

I wouldn't call it a human rights issue.. Just simply a social issue that needs to be addressed if we want a balanced, and fair society.

Human rights are even harder to implement and provide than social rights.. I think I'll stick with social rights. Far more reliable. But I do agree with your stance overall. It doesn't matter who is involved, domestic abuse should be tackled, and minimized as much as is humanly possible.

If I'm capable of reading and writing text quickly (considering how much time people spend online), then others are too. Takes me less than two minutes to read/understand anything I've submitted here.

The irony is your own objection about long posts... is a sign of a passive aggressive attack. Long posts by themselves aren't. And you've just reinforced my earlier point about deflecting, and dismissing the concerns involved.

Nice.

You're still sidestepping the issue. That's been pointed out a number of times, and you continue to ignore it. Seeking to answer or supply statements about a scenario that nobody has talked about.

It's hardly an obscure reference. Most people look to mainstream feminism as to what came with first and second wave feminism. which was the original seeking of equality for the genders, the breaking down of discriminatory barriers, and the diminishing of gendered role stereotypes. Extreme feminism, is typically considered the later forms of feminism, which have moved beyond equality, and embraced the nit-picking of society to make women benefit more, are protected more, while also blaming men for all the ills of the world. Extreme feminism was birthed in the halls of US academia, and later by the internet through feminist driven literature.

That other poster assumed people would understand the difference between feminism and extreme feminism... because most people can. Although considering the impact of modern feminism, many women have stated that they don't want to be associated with feminism.. so while they favour the protections/benefits extended to women, they don't like the more extreme elements that state that "all men are rapists".

That other poster made a negative association between feminists and getting off at tearing at men... which is accurate. If you've spent any time looking at feminist driven websites, articles, etc there is no shortage of "extreme" views out there that place the entire male gender as being responsible for everything negative that happens to women.. and they're not shy about stating horrible things about men. There will be feminists out there who are full of hate, resentment, or whatever.

That one is pretty obvious but why are you here at all? To discuss topics with others with differing opinions, or the expectation that your contributions will change reality in some way? Personally, I've always used boards as a way of evolving my arguments (or discovering that some of those arguments were retarded), so that they're better prepared for dealing with the oddball responses you often get in the real world.

I doubt the other poster will be back to defend his statement, or answer your questions, since it's a while since he posted them.

It was you that objected to it's usage. I'm fine with it being used that way, because there aren't classifications used when feminism is referred to in the media, education, or generally in society.