What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

PropJoe10 · 22-02-2022 12:10PM

Just saw that the head of Trump's new "social media" nonsense is none other than Devin Nunes. His career is going from strength to strength anyway.

Penn · 22-02-2022 12:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672160#Comment_118672160

At least it got him out of politics. Something we can all be glad of.

Pussyhands · 22-02-2022 12:18PM

Trump talk back on the radio. Gotta love it. Running for 2024 talk won't be far away.

Trump making a keynote speech at CPAC I heard.

Nearly a 1/3 of the way through to the next election already. Times flying!

everlast75 · 22-02-2022 12:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672215#Comment_118672215

You running for Sean Spicer' role?

Pussyhands · 22-02-2022 12:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118671138#Comment_118671138

Ehm, no.

No one would have a problem with having people being sick of having "right wing crap rammed down our throats". You're free to think that.

The issue lies where there's inequality of treatment. You can call me whatever name you like, I'd be fine with that. But if you do that but I can't do the same to you, then you can bet that I'll kick up a fuss and throw the toys out of the pram.

Donald Trump is banned on Twitter yet the Taliban has a twitter account. 🤡

Quin_Dub · 22-02-2022 12:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672077#Comment_118672077

Guarantee that every document he took are ones that he thinks say something nice about him or makes him look good.

We already know that he took the "letters" from Kim Jong Un.

It won't be documents about banal "government" stuff that he's taken that's for sure.

I bet the plan was to have them all framed around Mar-a-Lago like his fake Time posters etc.

Pussyhands · 22-02-2022 12:49PM

And really folks, Donald Trumps rise was born out of 2008. The rich and wealthy were put ahead of the ordinary person. You see it all over Europe because the same thing happened. The issues of 2008 were never fixed, this is a common opinion shared by experts.

You can reel off GDP figures and growth but none of that matters a damn if you can't afford to live anywhere.

Go have a look at the economies we are familiar with where the rich were bailed out and the ordinary man is getting shafted to this day as a result.

US - elected Trump

UK - elected Tories and Brexit

Mainland Europe - Large rise in "far right" votes

Closer to home, Sinn Fein are rising and rising. They are our Trump. You can be thankful that they are on the left. We're very lucky due to our tax haven status. We're getting tens of billions of tax to spend every year that we really don't deserve. People are angry and voting SF now...imagine if we had 10 billion a year less to spend every year just how angry people would be.

extra gravy · 22-02-2022 12:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672274#Comment_118672274

Did the Taliban violate Twitter's terms of service? The usual whataboutery because you're unable to admit Donnie did something wrong.

Quin_Dub · 22-02-2022 01:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672388#Comment_118672388

And yet in both the UK and the US , the parties that got elected as this supposed "strike against the elites" are the epitome of Elite.

Trump is only interested in making money for himself and by extension other ultra wealthy people , similarly in the UK with the Tories - entitled wealthy public school-boys interested only in feathering their own nests.

The votes for Trump , Tories and Brexit are incredible examples of self-immolation by large numbers of those that voted for them.

What exactly will any of the above do to help the "ordinary people" that you correctly say were shafted in 2008 (and before) by the very same people they subsequently voted into power as a reaction to the fallout of that period???

Leroy42 · 22-02-2022 01:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672388#Comment_118672388

So what did Trump do to help those badly effected by 2008?

Trump had four years to make a difference, and he was found wanting. Nobody is trying to argue that some of Trumps vote in 2016 wasn't a protest vote. Many people openly stated that they were willing to give him a chance as the alternative, HC, would change nothing.

But then Trump won and instead of fighting for what his supporters actually said they wanted, he spent his time playing golf, failure to prepare an alternative to Obamacare, fighting with everyone, including those in his own party and his own supporters (how many people left the WH during his term).

So he failed, and that is why Biden got a protest vote. You can't argue for one and ignore the other. So why would Trump be the answer to any question for a voter in 2024. There is no longer the 'sure give him a go' brigade. He has shown himself to be lazy, divisive, has no policies, has no plan.

Anybody that voted for him (74m) did so because they wanted to vote for him and accepted the negatives. There was no protest vote in 2020 for Trump. He was the establishment. He was the source of the problems, or at the least he failed to deal with them.

TheIrishGrover · 22-02-2022 02:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118671978#Comment_118671978

So if you are kermit, can you answer in kermit-mode to the two/three questions in my post?

And if fox news is the largest news station in America how can they claim to not be heard? How can someone be the biggest kid on the block and not part of the "mainstream Media"?

So yes, I believe that Trump's vote was partially a protest vote but now everyone knows what he stands for and what the GOP is willing to embrace. Is this still the voice these people want the world to hear?

Pussyhands · 22-02-2022 02:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672779#Comment_118672779

What he's done is give them a voice. He represents them. Whether you think he's a true representation, you will say no for definite.

And once again, it's not just people affected by 2008. Issues still exist from 2008, it's not just people who were directly affected by 08.

Whether you agree with them or not, it's vital that you understand why people vote for Trump, vote for Brexit etc.

Stanley 1 · 22-02-2022 02:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672388#Comment_118672388

The GOP should go after his ability to raise funds, which is Donald's main aim anyway, it will slowly castrate him, apply rules about raising funds for Elections, campaigns and his personal fav MAGA, at some stage he pulls out of 2024 and uses all funds raised to save Trump Inc., or head for exile in Dubai.

Quin_Dub · 22-02-2022 02:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672891#Comment_118672891

I completely understand the frustration and anger from people left behind by society , what I cannot understand is deciding that the solution to that is voting for Trump (or Brexit etc.) and certainly not voting for him a second time.

He hasn't given them a "voice" , he has leveraged their anger and frustration and manipulated them to line his own pockets whilst actively working to screw them over a bit more.

The only real piece of legislation he actually delivered was his tax cuts and guess what? - The "average American" barely broke even from it as the rich absolutely coined it in.

87 Million Taxpayers in the US earn less than 50k per year - After Trumps tax changes , they took home about $300 a year LESS than they did before-hand.

The Trump/Republican tax savings were highly concentrated up the income ladder with hardly any tax savings going to the working poor and only a smidgen to the middle class.

Those making $50,000 to $100,000 for example, paid just three-fourths of 1 percentage point less of their incomes to our federal government. People making $2 million to $2.5 million saw their effective tax rate fall by about three times that much.

Now let’s compare two groups, those making $50,000 to $100,000 and those declaring $500,000 to $1 million. The second group averaged nine times as much income as the first group in 2018.

Under the Trump tax law, the first group’s annual income taxes declined on average by $143, while the second group’s tax reduction averaged $17,800.

Put another way, a group that made nine times as much money enjoyed about 125 times as much in income tax savings.

The British are unlikely to get a chance to vote on Brexit again anytime soon so it's hard to gauge the level of "buyers remorse" there but no one can be happy with how it's going so far.

Leroy42 · 22-02-2022 04:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118672891#Comment_118672891

So those people that voted for Trump, that wanted a voice, but not actually any action? They just want to vent? What do they think is going to better by election a person with no ability to actually do anything, even if one was actually believe he cared.

I acknowledged that many here, including myself, understood the protest vote for Trump in 2016. But there was no protest vote for Trump in 2020. So what were those 74m actually voting for? To simply hear a man talk in their voice? So you accept that sorting out the mess from 2008 and beyond had nothing to do with it, then fully agreed with the division, the focusing on enemies, portraying sections of the public as non American etc.

They value that more that actual results that will help them in their lives?

Penn · 22-02-2022 04:25PM

At this stage, if I was a Republican and voted for Trump the last two times, I'd be hoping he doesn't run again in 2024. There are plenty of other GOP candidates who would still be advancing the same policies and positions as Trump, and would still be that same "voice of the voiceless", especially seeing as how well it worked for Trump. But Trump's name is now every bit as tarnished as Hilary's was in 2016, to the point where Trump running could lead to protest votes for the Dem nominee (presumably Biden or Harris) just because they don't want Trump back.

A different GOP nominee could bridge that gap enough the 74m or so who voted Trump would still vote for them (as they wouldn't want the Dems to win), but could get enough floating voters, or at least make people less likely to vote for Biden/Harris to block Trump getting back in.

What does Trump truly offer that several other GOP candidates might not?

TheIrishGrover · 22-02-2022 05:40PM

On a slight tangent: What do trump supports think his legacy will be? What do they think people will say about him in 20 years time? What do they think his legacy will be and what do they think it SHOULD be (If different).

Genuine question.(Although so far no supporter has ever answered a question of mine so not holding my breath 😀)

TheIrishGrover · 22-02-2022 06:39PM

I tells ya, you name the Acronym and the GOP hate them (And that includes themselves)

BLM

CRT

LGBTQI+

NCAAP

BBC

MSM

GDFDTFDIOTE (I may have simply hit keys at random there but hey).

At this stage they like MAGA and KKK. Oh, and NRA... How could I forget

Quin_Dub · 22-02-2022 06:43PM

CRT is not now and never has been taught ANYWHERE outside of very specific courses provided to University level students studying for degrees in Law.

Not a single Primary or Secondary level school anywhere in the United States has ever put forward any learning modules that are in anyway connected to Critical Race Theory.

Any suggestion otherwise is a lie , plain and simple.

Igotadose · 22-02-2022 06:59PM

In #2xIMPOTUS-related news, seems like his attempt to prevent Congress from looking at white house documents pertaining to Jan 6, which the committee already has, has been killed off by the USSC. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-white-house-docs-denial/index.html .

everlast75 · 22-02-2022 07:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118674543#Comment_118674543

They're an ungrateful bunch, eh? He put two of them on there and is it too much to ask for a bit of a quid pro quo?

ohnonotgmail · 22-02-2022 08:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118674666#Comment_118674666

I think donnie forgot that once you are made a SC justice it is impossible to get rid of you so why should return favours?

relax carry on · 22-02-2022 08:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118674839#Comment_118674839

Why would anyone do him favours anymore? He will throw anyone under the bus to save his own orange skin. Trump is loyal to Trump but expects 100% loyalty from his followers/minions/backers etc.

Cody montana · 22-02-2022 08:47PM

Donald Trump just called Putin's invasion of Ukraine 'genius' and 'very savvy' and referred to him as a 'peacekeeper.'

Not sure if this is true.

kowloon · 22-02-2022 08:51PM

Interesting to see the Trumpists split in the Russia thread. Trump is either strong while Biden is weak, or Biden is the face of Western aggression.

Brian? · 22-02-2022 08:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118674253#Comment_118674253

You’ve no idea what CRT is. I can tell you it isn’t being taught in schools.

Good bit on it here.

https://youtu.be/EICp1vGlh_U

OU812 · 22-02-2022 09:24PM

That damn grifter is still going strong.

If you go to hi website, you're greeted with "Sign President Trump's Official President's Day card" (Hallmark missed a beat), click on it & you can enter your name but you have to donate & it's a subscription.

Leroy42 · 22-02-2022 10:29PM

CrT was the deciding factor in an election? Are you sure?

Before taxes employment, local services, federal spending, crime, drugs, healthcare, immigration?

It also doesn't say much when the right wing believe that children are so easily indoctrinated. Yet have no problem with religion being taught in schools?

Toeuptony · 22-02-2022 11:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118675628#Comment_118675628

Corrupt Republican Teachings?

TheIrishGrover · 23-02-2022 12:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118675045#Comment_118675045

I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, “This is genius.” Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.

So, Putin is now saying, “It’s independent,” a large section of Ukraine. I said, “How smart is that?” And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s strongest peace force… We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy… I know him very well. Very, very well.

From a pro (VERY Pro) trump site/interview

I knew Putin very well. I got along with him great. He liked me. I liked him. I mean, you know, he’s a tough cookie, got a lot of the great charm and a lot of pride. But the way he — and he loves his country, you know? Ye loves his country. He’s acting a little differently I think now.

Full interview (Warning: It's just as pandering as you can imagine. You may want to clear your browser history after)

Full Interview: President Trump with C&B from Mar-a-Lago

https://www.clayandbuck.com/president-trump-with-cb-from-mar-a-lago/

PRESIDENT TRUMP: The polls for me have never been higher. And I guess against Biden, but who wouldn't be winning?

So come on, klan.... Defend him. Defend your leader.

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