ESB eCars

To paraphrase "it's not my fault, its everybody else !"

So they’d be also be counting the 50kW units as 3!

shameful fudging of the numbers.

I was about to post it but gave up as it is such a sad news. Beside the fact that the number is fudged which mean the 3000 will be proportionately fudged. The target is that in the new decade there will be on sale only cars with plugs. That will mean that using the most pessimistic growth model in 2030 will be around 500k EVs on the road.

at the end of 2021 22k EVs ..... 1350 "chargers"

at the end of 2030 500k EVs .... 3000 "chargers"

x20 ..... x 2

Our only hope is ecars to be sold by then

re ecars getting to big is it sarcasm? I can't really grasp it sometimes. Would these guys get broken down for setting the bar to high? Or just because they se the reality?

Pretty sure there is a sweet point in the market share when suddenly all operators will fight to install chargers. It is not far and coming fast

ECars currently replacing some rapids in NI and everyone is giggling like schoolgirls.

Yes it's good to finally see some progress. But the way eCars have treated NI for years is an absolute disgrace and I'm sure it's no coincidence that at the same time EasyGo announce that they're currently scouting sites for up to 100 rapids, eCars finally install the first new rapid for I believe 4-5 years.

And its not even a new site, just replacement of old units.

Its like Toyota announcing their first EV. Too little, too late, and I hope they fail miserably and get eaten up by the competition.

It's like the good/bad old days down here when chargers were free to use, always broken, and the comparable associations did nothing but have coffee with Anna and want to claim credit for anything positive that happened, like OMFG a replacement SPOF 50kW charger, WOW

NI hasn't had any expansion in 10+ years. And for at least 5 years they weren't even maintaining what was here.

It’s not too small, it’s just the wrong types and quantities of units in the wrong places.

Does it though? I mean, there's probably some truth to it but there also seems to be a fair bit of passing the buck going on

It'd be pretty interesting to see ESBN's and An Bord Pleanala's side of the story as well. Are they really snowed under with requests and are too badly funded/inefficient to process them all?

Or is it a case that they get one application every 6 months and spend the rest of the year haggling over it?

Two sides to every argument is all I'm saying 😊

I'll give some credit to ESB, they're the only people who are installing fast chargers or HPCs in more remote areas. I don't see Ionity or Tesla installing a HPC in the west of Ireland anytime soon

The rollout is still garbage and their "hubs" are in name only, and I do agree they effectively have a monopoly on a lot of public charging

I still reckon the best approach would be for the government, local authorities and the NTA to get together, figure out where fast charging should be installed and tender out the contract to install and maintain the infrastructure to private companies. It would allow for much more targeted use of public funds to ensure unprofitable routes still have decent charging infrastructure

Used one of the snazzy new 50kW chargers in Belfast today. There was someone plugged into the AC socket though, which the departing Leaf driver told me would result in the DC sides being limited to 22kW.

Sure enough when I plugged in, I only got 24kW.

However I was chatting to a friend later who used the other newly installed 50kW and he also was limited to 24kW. There was nobody on the AC socket.

Nothing but the best from Anna.

I'd go on the EVANI page to see if others have had the same issue but they've booted me out for the crime of telling the truth lol.

They make a good point though... give us the grid connection, and we'll do the rest.., and would be a great opportunity to sell off eCars, and just use the climate action fund to fund grid connections for appropriate locations.

"Maxol wants the Government to cover the cost of getting power into the grid and to the right access locations on their or other’s forecourts. Maxol as a private business will then invest in the equipment, maintaining the service and in a payments platform, he claimed.

The company plans next year to develop eight electric vehicle charging hubs, provided the power is made available and there is access to it in the locations, three of which are in the Republic and five in the North.

These would have at least three 150KV chargers on site and Mr Donaldson said Maxol has already developed branding and a payment platform for them."