National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

I presume they would test and check a very small percentage of the network. In any contract like this there would be a work standard to adhere to. It's not like s roadway where you can have a Quality Control engineer on site all the time.

To QC( certification) this you would check a certain small percentage of the network.

The fact that Digiweb (and presumably others) are able to schedule an installation 2 weeks from order, and others like Sky and Eir aren't suggests this is more of an issue on the RSP side (and possible along the Bitstream/VUA split I mentioned in earlier threads). It's reasonable to suggest that the RSPs who might leverage VUA are dragging their heels about getting the equipment in place. Sky and |Vodafone for example use OpenEir behind the scenes (at least in some locations, if not all), so they would first be dependent on the OpenEir VUA equipment being in place, before they would in turn be able to add their own equipment. And lets just say the relationship between OpenEir and Sky/Vodafone has had friction:

About the certification, I find that surprising, not least because I've seen teams here in the Tipp DA checking every DP in my area in the last few weeks one-by-one. I don't want to dismiss this idea, but that's not what I'm seeing on the ground. That said, I've no idea what "certification" entails...

The Mast Backhaul documents went live on the NBI site yesterday:

Will be really interesting to see if it has any impact on geographic rural coverage over the coming 5-10 years. Between this and the 700Mhz spectrum licensing, it's a fantastic groundwork to build nearly ubiquitous rural connectivity.

I rang Sky so July 6th is not a real installation date. It's just to keep the order or pre-order live on their system. So I'm not planning my summer holidays around that date

Yep, that makes absolute sense.

What form of certification ?

Are you saying that this is now no longer happening?

From the NBI map data; some changes to the status of Deployment Areas since the last major change on 21st of December. Caveat, the map data does not necessarily match eircode queries or the email notifications.

Using the same data it's possible to sort the completion dates into years (aggregate for 2025/6) to get the following schedule. Again, strong caveat.... and NBI and the Department have said they won't have the 2022 schedule agreed until the end of March.

Looks like EIR the saviors of Ireland's infrastructure doing exactly what I expected of EIR giving that lad a boat load of money. https://m.independent.ie/business/irish/eirs-fibre-stake-sale-will-weaken-its-operating-profile-41378053.html

Very good point about the consultation.

I changed my mind instead of going with eir, going with Vodafone. They coming to install on Wednesday morning 🤞

Nope they don’t and I got text this morning advising they can’t give me fibre anyways because of infrastructure. I don’t know if this applies to all DA’s or just mine but kind of glad decided to go with Vodafone. Will probably be leaving eir to go to another mobile provider also due to this.

A couple 0f slides from a recent NBI presentation, dated 21st February. The Order/Pre-Order number is worryingly static. It changed on the NBI site on the 23rd December 2021 to 54466. Today, the 1st March, it is 54684, having updated yesterday from 54512.

There was also a rather large change to the map data yesterday, specifically the total number of premises. As per @clohamon post https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118683517/#Comment_118683517 the previous total was 548,918, however yesterday they removed 13,464 premises to leave the total at 535,454. Out of 227 deployment areas only 28 have their total remain unchanged. 50 DAs increased their total while 149 DAs were reduced.

The big gainers were:

• Carrigaline (+1065)
• Roscrea (+464)
• Kilkenny (+447)
• Athenry (+445)
• Banagher (+350)

Big reductions:

• Mullingar (-977)
• Rathmore (-732)
• Glencar (-705)
• Kilcoole (-610)
• Creeslough (-581)

I'm not sure what has prompted these changes or how it tallies with the 554K figure that NBI and DECC have been recently referring to.

Repeatedly chasing the discount is easy with the utility companies. Unfortunately, it just isn't with ISPs. Some of them are imposing large switching hassle to discourage cancelling.

The rational solution to that, as you say, is to find an ISP with 'a decent quality of service at a fair price'.

Switching should really be as easy as it is for Gas and Electricity. We're still in a sort of business wild west with ISPs.

That actually beggars belief. I've no doubt it's legitimate, but how they can have an installation date, followed by a text saying no infrastructure is incredible!

I'm surprised Vodafone are able to supply you, as I thought they were piggy-backing on OpenEir (Siro is not available in the Tipp DA), but perhaps Vodafone are going the bitstream route (or perhaps Vodafone were only using the OpenEir access network). Anyway, glad you didn't get held up. I'm still stuck in the land of pre-order.