Sacked doctor sues former employer for refusing to call trans-woman "she"

Hysterical rubbish. Can you point out exactly where oej has advocated getting rid of safety for women?

As far as I am aware, all laws protecting everyone in society are still in place.

I hate to point out that the majority of women who get raped in prison are raped by make prison officers, not trans women.

There is nothing stopping any male walking into women's toilets or changing rooms and why, in the world, so you think that toilets suddenly change men into sexual deviants?

Is it all men that women need this protection from? Or just trans women?

A screen shot of a banned poster from Twitter? Brilliant 🙄

It's a photograph. It's a real thing that happened. And yes, the poster was banned because Twitter is a misogynistic hellhole.

What do you think of it. Dare to say, or do you have to just pretend it isn't happening?

BTW it isn't hysterical drivel. It's absolute reality. OEJ is in favour of all these positions. If he isn't he can say so (I won't engage, but he can say so):

• Mixed sex toilets
• Mixed sex sports
• Mixed sex prisons
• Mixed sex women's refuges
• Mixed sex provision of medical care
• Mixed sex 'women only' shortlists in politics
• Mixed sex 'women only' grants and scholarships

By mixed sex I mean any man can access them by saying he is a woman at any time, so biological women have nothing to themselves.

The consequence of all the above should be obvious but maybe it isn't. Anyway, it will be in time. Nobody is going to have to persuade anyone when the next Katie Taylor is beaten by a man claiming to be a woman in the ring. The conversation will end overnight.

You said 'it's all men' so, in that case we better protect women from all men by keeping all men away from women.

The vast majority of violent crime and the vast majority of sexual assault is committed by males. I know anyone can commit a crime, but I also know that being approached by a man on a dark street at night puts me on edge in a way being approached by a woman does not. Please let's not pretend we don't all understand this.

I know that most offenders are known to their victims. There are lots of reasons for this, but one of them is access and opportunity. The inevitable result of the drift toward mixed sex facilities such as changing rooms and bathrooms is more opportunity. I don't believe this is a price worth paying, for what exactly?

You talk about not being able to keep men out of women's toilets today. Well no, when push comes to shove you can't. But when someone who looks like a man enters a women's toilet today they can be challenged. If security is on the premises, they can be called. If that person is an employee of a business, they can face disciplinary proceedings, etc etc. What we are now arguing for is telling women to keep their heads down and mind their own business (that isn't a joke, signs like this are going up all over colleges), even when instinct tells them something is not right. We all know what the consequences will be.

I would urge you to think clearly about the inevitable results of this drive to abandon biological sex as a meaningful way of providing segregated facilities.

Oh and nobody is telling women to ignore their instincts. What you don't seem to understand is that women don't need to be in a toilet with a trans woman to have any sort of instinctive feeling that something isn't right.

Those are feelings that women deal with ALL THE TIME , see that man that sits just a little too close to you at the bus stop/on the bus?

The guy who makes sure he rubs right up against you in the, not so crowded pub, so you can feel exactly how excited he is doing it?

The creepy weirdo following you around the library?

Just 3 of many instances that women find themselves in every single day. All in completely public areas. If you are so worried about women's feelings and their safety, maybe start by doing something about things that actually happen, instead of some fantasy thing that might happen........

I read your post. I thought it was a welcome reminder of the reality that women are exposed to creepy (or worse) behaviour from men on a regular basis. I also agree that men can and should do more when it comes to calling this behaviour out. If anything, it also reminds us not to over-estimate men as a group.

But I'm totally confused, because what you are arguing for is that when you go swimming (for example) that creepy man is entitled to be changing next to you, or showering next to you. Are you sure that's what you want?

Today we have social conventions that broadly speaking keep spaces like swimming pool changing rooms single-sex. They are not perfect, but again if a bearded 'male-looking' person entered the women's changing rooms, people would speak up, someone would demand they leave, somebody could call security. A male person obviously 'enjoying' being around semi-naked woman would not last long.

If activists get their way, all of that will be gone. It will be a case of keep your head down and hope.

By the way I wish you and others would stop pretending that the things one side of the debate warn about don't happen. They happen all the time, I shared a link with comprehensive data that mixed sex facilities lead to an increase in sexual assaults. It isn't scaremongering and if you were arguing in good faith you would accept that.

And to clarify one thing: it isn't 'trans women', it is ALL males.

But when you say that trans women can use whichever changing room they wish to, you are effectively giving a green light to any man who wants to enter the women's changing room. It is impossible to argue otherwise.

I deal in realities. I don't become hysterical about fantasies with barely any basis in reality.

I did not see your link, what exactly does it show with regard to sexual assaults? How has it caused an increase?

For the record I agree with all of this too.

Women should be entitled to their own spaces just because, and they shouldn't have to jump through hoops to justify it.

In addition I have no issue with mixed spaces that people can use if they wish to. That's fine. But let those women who want them have their own spaces.