Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Where do you get Russia good out of that?

Are you aware there are more than 2 opinions? It's not simply a case of either you agree with everything I say or you are in the other camp that likes all the things I hate.

Timmy having some experience in war situations myself, I'd much prefer Gatlings assessment than yours,,,,, ( and that's not meant to be a personal dig or anything at you BTW.) And Putin has already threatened to use nuclear weapons if he needs to.

Threats to use nuclear weapons are not the same as use of nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are nothing more than a deterrent that stops other nuclear powers from fighting each other, because the risk of all out nuclear warfare is too great, and nobody wins.

The west will put economic sanctions on Russia, Russia will accept this and carry on in Donbas since they are now a net food exporter (thanks to last round of sanctions they are now largely self-sufficient). China will back Russia too against the west (https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/china-state-media-editor-says-beijing-must-back-russia-over-ukraine-so-it-gets-support-when-it-fights-for-taiwan/articleshow/89775014.cms), so the west will not even consider attacking Russia or pursuing regime change in Russia because Putin has China's backing essentially.

The rest of the world will suffer from increased energy prices, Ukrainians will suffer as a proxy force used to engage the Russians, arms dealers will profit. Thats about the height of it. There is no world war 3 coming.

If that meeting of his security council 2 days ago is anything to go by I suspect that that power, along with all other powers in Russia really is centralised in just one person's hands.

Having said that I'm not particularly worried that he's going to be firing any nukes at anyone any time soon.

Reading this thread from the start is quite depressing, in the delusions on display. Where now Klaz and Sand?

A pre-recorded display, designed to shock. Putin is a master of propaganda.

Lets rewind back a bit, what has he actually done so far? He's legitimized 2 separatist regions. Regions the Ukranian government says are "temporarily occupied" - nearly 10 years that's going on btw.

Let's see what his next move is before getting too excited.

Ahh ffs your posts are full of BS.

Ukraine has been invaded by Russia, their are no ifs or buts about it, and if Russia pushes further in you think the Ukraine are just fighting some proxy war against the Russians? for the west?

They will be fighting for the survival of their own country and democracy.

Seriously the mental gymnastics being thrown around in this thread is something else.

When Putin mentions Ukraine isn't a real country.

Sorry but like just thinking out loud, but do sanctions only work if the never played to go to war? I mean surly sanctions mean nothing if war was on the books anyway?

Interesting how there are sanctions against several individual Russians, but not mr. Putin himself - apparently this is so that the option for diplomacy can be kept in place. If the invasion moves beyond its current stage, then you'd expect to see sanctions against Putin as well.

i think its incredulous how the lunacy of Putin is mirrored by anybody associated with Russia, its like a blanket blindness, surely they can't all be purged if they speak out together against Russia's latest military adventure

For some reason I went back to the first page of this thread - just to see when and how it all started.

Spotted this post there - I don't think that that's aged well!

Whereas journalists and political opponents just have unfortunate accidents in mother Russia...