The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

And the four billion is irrelevant to the question asked. He was asked specifically about one very specific project on which the central government forced DCC to accept deals which involved selloffs of public land. Generic, generalised answers like this to specific questions are exactly what's wrong with FFG and exactly why so many people are sick of hearing what they have to say.

To give you an analogy, imagine this was a police interview.

Police: Did you steal the accused's wallet when you encountered him on Grafton Street today?

Accused: For many years now I have been a strong advocate against petty crime and in favour of better policing and better sentencing...

Police: *sighs* For f*ck's sake, did you steal this particular wallet today or not?

Accused: You're the last person who should be speaking to me about stealing things...

Look, you can justify and defend this kind of bullsh!t debating in the Dáil all you like, the opinion polls speak for themselves. People are tired of the bluster, they want politicians who speak directly to what they are asked and no more or less than that.

Some of the biggest ahistorical rubbish I've seen in a long long time.

SF of 1918 variety got a democratic mandate from the people. The leaders of SF at the time knew and expressed openly to the people that if the British were not going to negotiate a peaceful withdrawal they would have to fight them for it. This was understood. It was also understood that the IRA at the time had to be quick about and certainly the people would not be on their side if they engaged in a long war. Hence why the war of independence was relatively short which culminated in the treaty, unlike the 30 years long grind that the PIRA were willing to do.

Partition was voted on in the Dail. News to me that stuff that gets legislated for in the Dail is now not democratic. NI rejoined the Union via a vote in Stormont.

You are really really showing off your lack of knowledge on the basics here. Maybe post less and read more.

Good luck, I hope you are ultimately rewarded for your many years of active service

Wow, so the SF of 1918 had NO mandate....

Tell us all Brucie, how does that work? ROFL

Didn't MLMD bring up the FF history of the Galway Tents and Ansbachur first though?

Why did she have to go back 20-30 years if the issue is purely about housing?

If she went low, then MM will follow. Its that simple.

I knew it was a bad decision, I pm’d to say what I thought……

The last three or four pages have proved me right.

Because another party's past is irrelevant to the business of Leader's questions, which is about what the leader and his government is doing. jaysus,,this ain't rocket science.

FF's corrupt past being repeated is relevant to Leaders Questions, if there are sweet heart deals and blackmail going on that is current.

But instead of using her time to provide evidence of blackmail and corruption she goes for the usual Thik Tok strategy of bringing up Ansbacher (1971) and the Galway Tent (2007).

If Sinn Féin’s corrupt past is relevant in responding to current accusations then it is also relevant to the discussion.

Similarly if SF are criticizing the treatment of the women of honour as brought up by a previous poster then it is entirely legitimate to question Sinn Féin’s response to sex abuse, the former leaders hiding of his brother and also if, as Sinn Fein still claim IRA members were Oglaigh na hEireann, how their procedures in abuse cases compare with the procedures they are now criticizing.

What was the point of mentioning Ansbacher.

Most commentators are pointing the fingers at MLMD here for going low. They are correct to do so.

Yet another lie Francie.

You really are on a role.

Read the transcript again, even slower this time and tell us if the Taoiseach mentioned O’ Devanney Gardens.

Maybe when you do you would have the courtesy to come back and apologise.

here is the Taoiseach’s response

“The O'Devaney Gardens project would have been built a long time ago if it was not for people playing politics with it. It is either the Sinn Féin way or the highway. We either build houses its way or we will never build houses. It will always be against any sort of mixed tenure approach, or an approach that involves a mixture of social, affordable and private housing. Dublin City Council would have been very involved with O'Devaney Gardens. The project goes back to 2015, “

The question for you Francie is will you admit you were wrong and apologise???????????????

Yes, it’s a bit down the road from facilitating / covering for murderers and those guilty of various other crimes such as not reporting child sex offenders in their ranks and refusing to cooperate with investigations..Truthfulness and accountability are not words that we ever come to associate with Sinn Fein, that hasn’t changed, isn’t changing and won’t in the future.

the template of their horrendous legacy will continue…

In addition trying to hold others to account for supposed wrong doings when they won’t themselves and for wrong doings 1000000 worse than what’s being alleged by them ? That’s why SF won’t see a vote from me…

There was a question in your post? Most questions are asked with one of these yokes...????

No surprise you didn’t apologise for your lie.

This is what you said, a direct quote

“Did Micheál mention Bartra or Devanny Gardens once in his answer? NO he didn't,”

You are a liar Francie. Plain and simple.