United Ireland Poll - please vote

You constitutionally secure their rights, you ensure through negotiations and commitments gained from Britain that they maintain citizenship if they want it...many many ways to do it.

What?

Have you missed the 24 years since the GFA and the fact it isn't even fully implemented yet?

Have you missed NI being taken out of the EU against their will?

The refusal to grant rights applied to everyone else on these islands?

Wanting a UI is a legitimate aspiration...did you miss that bit too?

Not having our armed forces or the Gardai either directly or in collusion with paramilitaries shooting their children in the streets is already a damn sight better than we received. We spent long enough taking what we were given without a voice at the table to not need your patronising sh*tehawkery trying to compare a United Ireland where their rights aren't trampled into the ground to what we lived through. Another comfortable, leafy suburb miles from the border I'd imagine?

Dublin is to Unionists what London is to Republicans? I'm a fairly obvious Republican....I just spent a weekend in London, had a wonderful time, ate some great food, watched an entertaining soccer match.....even visited Buckingham Palace while I was there. I suspect you're arguing against strawman Nordies that either don't represent 90+% of the real population or are such an exaggerated caricature version of the worst of the worst to be practically useless as a point of reference. I don't blame the average Unionist for what happened up there, most were just trying to get on with their lives in a warped system. I don't blame the average British person either....but the system itself was and still remains inherently broken.

Most Unionists aren't Paisley Snr, most Republicans aren't part of Saoradh.

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I'll remind you of exactly what you said in your post;

The strawman is very much on your side, as precisely no one here is arguing for Unification which sees those from the Unionist community being treated how Nationalists were treated by Westminster for decades.

You've literally made the point that an NI ruled from Dublin could see Unionists treated the way Nationalists in NI have been treated by Westminster......your objection to this being referred to as a flip seems odd to me.

Regarding your reply directly to me, I'm fully aware that SYMBOLICALLY, Unionists would view, 'Dublin Rule' in a manner akin to how Nationalists view, 'London Rule', and symbolism is certainly important, but I'm much more concerned with ensuring that PRACTICALLY, 'Dublin Rule' differs from what we experienced growing up. The objections of some regarding symbolism certainly shouldn't outweigh the wishes of others to pursue an outcome allowed for in an international agreement that the majority of those opposing it actually agreed to.

One could level the same charges at you, plenty of bad faith arguments and strawmen coming from your own posts, and a heap of loaded questions thrown in as attempted, 'gotchas'. That being said, I'm pretty sure I've addressed any points you've put to me quite directly, if I've missed anything feel free to remind me and I'll happily respond.

The poor me shtick of, 'oh I just wanted to ask a few questions' rather than acknowledging that you clearly posted with your mind made up as firmly as those you're arguing against....well that does you no favours.

Nonsense.

"Originally few in number, they have multiplied over the years, from 18 in the early 1990s to at least 59 as of late 2017;[2] in total they stretch over 34 kilometres (21 miles), with most located in Belfast. They have been increased in both height and number since the Good Friday Agreement of 1998.[3] "

A few small successes in removing a handful of walls here and there does not amount to any real progress.

18 in the early 1990s before the GFA to 59 recently proves my point.

Always using lazy tropes in an attempt to score political points.

Yeah, I support a United Ireland.

I think it would interesting to see what would happen to Unionist parties in a United Ireland. A lot of people believe Sinn Fein would dominate politics in United Ireland, as atm they have the largest number of votes on the island of Ireland as a whole by a good bit, being by far the largest Nationalist party in the North & pretty much tied with FG & FF in the south. But I wonder, if a United Ireland did happen, would the UUP & DUP votes be transferred to Fine Gael, like how the southern Irish Unionist Alliance vote was transferred to Cumann na nGaedheal in 1922?