Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

Oh go back to bed will you under whatever stone you crawled out from under.

Ukraine us at war with Russia yes and it is very sad.

I wish we in the west could do more but of America, France The UK or NATO attacked Russian troops there it would be the start of WWIII.

The only cleaver thing but maybe a bit crazy I could have seen America do was to threathen to fire there nukes at Russia if they did invade Ukraine. Maybe this might have made Putin reconsider it or maybe not. It's the only real way I can see that might have worked. If Putin had made the threat he did this morning before he invaded then it would have been the thing to do. Sometimes you have to be brave to be braveand fight fire with fire.

The problem was Putin had them all believing he was not going to invade.

If America had of threatened to fire a Nuke first Russia could have accused it of starting WWIII.

It's a tricky situation. I even wonder has Piden and his administration considered it. Maybe hitting a not so important city in Russia would prove they are serious about it and make Putin pull back.

I just do not think the West have the balls for it do.

Don't get me wrong I would not like to see it but I think that is the only way Putin is going to stop now unless he fires back and then it's Armagadom and very bad for all of us.

Mairead mcguiness saying the EU won't put boots on the ground

That has been the official stance from the start - repeated by Biden in any of his speeches over the last week. Also confirmed by NATO General Secretary Jen Stoltenberg this morning. Also acknowledged by Ukrainian officials / diplomats when interviewed - very clear we are not asking you to put troops on the ground but to help in anyway you can - has been a constant over the last week or so. Europe & Us have pledged military support - weapons etc but no boots on the ground. They ( Ukraine) have asked for a NATO no fly zone but it has not been granted - They’ve also asked Turkey to close the Bosphorus straight - which is accepted won’t happen but I don’t think Turkey has officially responded yet.

Eu don't really have boots to put anywhere , it's NATO or bust ,and Germany prob wouldn't agree,

My heart goes out to them, we the West are letting them down.

We should of had troops in Ukraine, call them 'Peace Keepers' if you want but they should of been there

The one thing I want out of this from EU side is finally getting an EU army going, no more excuses you cannot be neutral anymore

The Ukraine didn't want troops on the ground. They wanted weapons and sanctions which the west has delivered. They know that the best way to win the war is for Russia to lose its funding.

That isnt true. Ukraine wanted 'Peace Keepers' but of course the West couldnt decide on it

Imo Putin would want to control Chernobyl incase someone on the Ukrainian side decides to sabotage the place if it looks like the war is lost.

Hardly a shocker that the Italians and Germans dont want to impose stronger sanctions on the Russians. Cut from the same cloth that lot when it comes to invading foreign countries.

Putin won't win his war with tanks and bombs and guns, he will win it with propaganda. And this war didn't start 2 days ago, its been waging for years.

Putin got Trump elected, he got brexit done, he infected the Internet with division and he funded the worst most toxic political movements to **** with democracies around the world.

2 million in funding to the Tories from 1 individual oligarch....that we know of..

Putin is the ultimate troll. He knows how to distract and obfuscate so much that he can have literally his entire army lined up to cross a border and there are prominent media outlets pretending that he's only bluffing