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Worst TD ever elected

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,176 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Shane Ross.

    Stephen Donnelly.

    Louise O'Reilly.

    Violet-Anne Wynne.

    Eoin Ó Broin.

    Roderic O' Gorman.

    Aodhán Ó Ríordáin.

    Maria Bailey.

    Noel Rock.

    Holly Cairns.

    Richard Boyd Barrett.

    Clare Daly.

    Mick Wallace.

    Gino Kenny.

    Paul Murphy.

    Brid Smith.

    Joan Collins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭orecir


    Eoghan Murphy.


    Quite possibly the worst minister in the history of the state.

    Completely out of his depth from the get go and giving a massive portfolio because he was Leo's lapdog.

    At least he saw the writing on the wall and retired from politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Ruth Coppinger

    /end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    As if the 3 clowns there now are any better, MM in government when FF purposely bankrupt the country yet here he is again after spending two years wrecking the economy. As for Cowan have you forgotten about the smug clown that handed him the mess



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Didn't see Mattie McGrath mentioned, fair enough not the worst but he's at least one of the most unlikeable.

    Anti-gay marriage, anti abortion and staunch Catholic Church supporter.

    Craves the dark old days with Church and state and the Magdalene laundries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Yoozername.


    Helen McEntee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,292 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    I'm not sure. At first glance she doesn't appear the worst but she could only be keeping her head down for now while she cements her position. She could be serious bad news in years to come



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭yermanhimself




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    True.

    Last time out, the good people of Tipperary afflicted us with Lowry, Mattie McGrath, AK47, Martin Browne and Jackie Cahill, all in one sitting.

    Let that sink in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,533 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Looks kind of like a low-rent Paschal Donohoe body double.


    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,533 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Michelle "Fornication is a leading cause of unwanted pregnancy" "I'm entitled to an All-Ireland Final ticket" Mulherin

    Got caught for over 3k worth of calls from her Leinster House phone to her "friend" in Kenya, she did cough up the cash in the end though

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.






  • There should be a law against being a career parliamentarian. He would be significantly detached from reality.

    I don't even agree with people going into politics in their early 20s, very little real world experience.





  • Obvious agenda here.

    There is far worse than Helen McEntee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Ruth Coppinger once showed up at a charity event at a park, argued with volunteers about the €10 entry fee claiming she was a TD who just wanted to see what was happening, then left in a huff when she didn't get in for free. So she gets my vote.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Harsh including Hollie Cairns among all those others. I always had her as one of the more conscientious if not lumbered with a wishy washy party.

    My vote would be Dick Roche. I don't think anyone mentioned him yet.

    If you google 'worst TD in Ireland' Brian Cowen's wikipedia page comes in near the top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,040 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    There must be loads of TDs from the early days, severely bending to the whims of Catholicism in a secular State. Causing massive societal problems, that we still have with school patronage, hospital locations, adoption records...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,970 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Willie O’Dea……little weasel sucking on the teat of the State for decades and doing fork all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Quite a reaction to my discription of Helen McEntee as being Likeable, Efficient, ability to show empathy, Traits not normally to be found in FG TDs , I felt an honest observation but I equally said she's an enigma and I just wasn't sure about her as in like or dislike (Open minded)

    I also mentioned a liitle matter of the Indo chasing a curious story regarding political donations, a Donor and Helen McEntee and the fact if it was anyone else, media generally would be all over the story. I thought the story had quietly gone away, it has not, 3rd Indo story on the matter this morning.


    I personally prefer King Crisps myself 😉

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The repeatedly nominated Wynne has just resigned from SF citing bullying oddly enough!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    There is no right or wrong answer to the question of the thread but CJ was around long enough to do a lot of good things in his time as well as bad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Posters seem to imagine that we've had bad TDs since about 2000. There were a whole lot of bad ones before that, all those implicated by Mahon for example. It might also be useful to identify what a bad TD is rather than list of every TD people hate. Haughey and Bertie were good TDs, Cowen and Deasy too. It's other parts of their careers that people have trouble with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Another dreamer cast on the pile.

    Still, she has done the job of breaking new ground for SF in a general election. They will replace her with 'one of their own' next time out. Happens all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I think we are showing our age by saying that these were good TDs because we lived through the good & bad. Absolutely nothing wrong with being young, I'm envious of youth myself, but I think younger posters might not know the full history of TDs pre 2000. At one time Bertie was the most popular Leader of all time. To this day no leader has had such a high rating as Bertie. That's not to say they didn't do wrong



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I don't think we are looking for a scientific analysis. Most people don't remember obscure TDs from before they were born



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    Really? No mention of David "up the r@" Cullinane? He must be one of the best SF have to offer too if he gets the health spokesman position during the pandemic!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    No, but it should still be a bit more than I hate X so X is a bad TD. Some of them are not that obscure if you look. Most of the TDs down the years in Dublin North East for example, including Michael Woods, a FF minister, were awful and Cosgrave was implicated in corruption as a councillor. If you look at other constituencies up to 2000 and beyond you'll find exactly the same thing; poor quality TDs who did very little for their constituents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Roderic O' Gorman, he was a very poor fingal Councillor, most people in D15 didn't vote for, I call him the accidental TD/minister.

    He got through on the 5th count and because FG hate SF so much he found himself in a position that he's not fit for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    The ultimate 'career' politician.

    Them hands never did a day in the real world



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    I had never heard of Bernard Durkin until now... but the job of a member of any parliament is to represent the views of their electorate, so to enjoy the confidence of the voters for 40 years is a clear statement that he is doing the job he is meant to do. Whether he has the abilities to do another job or meeting your expectations is of no concern. As far as the people that count are concerned he is doing a very good job for them, most politicians don't survive that long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I tend to agree albeit I suppose I'm at an age (54) we're I can recall quite some Shenanigans from former FFG TD'S that would make many current TD'S blush and indeed those who continually Bash SF TD'S for events that happened decades ago.

    I'm no fan of SF incidently, but by a long mile some of their TDs have performed far better than the current shower of government TD'S, some of whom are utterly dreadful.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    What have they actually achieved other than shouting though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    hmmm Would you include Enda Kenny, Willie O'Dea, Michael Martin in these ultimate 'career' politicians? Another one would be Helen McEntee.

    As for worse TD's surprised no one has mentioned Sean Haughey, How long has he been in the Dail and you barely hear anything from him? Happy to sit back on the back benches, if he evens turns up, and get the cash. Not even sure how active he is in the constituency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Some people just naming names as they're anti-government or a TD such as Varadkar may have an unappealing personality is not a reason to name a politician bad.

    For me corrupt politicians like Liam Lawlor, Michael Lowry, Charles Haughey and Ray Burke have to be up there.

    Also, I'd go right back and put Eamon de Valera up there for handing power in Ireland to the Catholic Church.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    When their elected TDs offered such wonders as the charity defrauder Wynne, gone on holidays for the election Ryan, bomb maker Ellis, twitter-history-eraser Cronin etc it doesn't leave much to be considered one of the best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,970 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Don’t forget Wardy16 …got in on the surplus of O’Broin…

    who?????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    If it was any other party doing something similar, SF would massacre them, no pun intended. Imagine a FG TD being elected and doing a blueshirt salute! There would be no way they could not resign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    What does any opposition TD achieve, in Opposition, the same question about shouting could easily be asked of the Governments best ever Spokespeople, Alan Kelly and Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, indeed if you want to discuss shouting, I'd wager the decibels alot higher coming from the independent benches, albeit most of it incomprehensible.

    Ultimately, wether its liked or not, SF have successfully raised far more issues that affect the lives of many ordinary peoples than government TD'S, who appear oblivious as to what is going on in the real world.

    I believe the above one of many reasons, SF polling numbers high and I might add, their support base growing daily and not as is often perceived from a left wing looney cohort.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Good God when you see them all in one list it really is utterly depressing.

    Whats even more depressing is trying to work out how many tens of thousands of people actually voted for these people and in some cases more than once!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I am in his constituency and he is absolutely anonymous. You have a certain cohort that will elect him for his name. There is another generation of them in councils most recently claiming credit for some voluntary organisations getting grants. Absolutely shameless family.

    We have a poor track record in our constituency with TDs. 3/5 current crop are awful



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    I was just about to mention Eoghan Murphy. Mega disastrous appointment at a time when we had/have the worst housing crisis in the history of the state. Yes, he has left public life but his appalling performance will have grave consequences for Irish citizens for decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I'll second that his arrogance only surpassed by Leo

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Has Heather Humphries been mentioned , utterly dreadful , two questions

    How was she elected

    How was she appointed a minister

    Actually, I'll squeeze in another, am I alone in not understanding a single word that comes out of her mouth 🤔

    Post edited by Dempo1 on

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    They have changed the way the shouting is done though. It isn't just that the government have different ideas about how issues should be resolved, they are corrupt and evil. They are introducing a style of discourse that is more similar to what you have in the US at the moment. I think this will be ultimately damaging long term to democracy in Ireland. But then they probably don't really care about that as democracy is a relatively new concept to them.

    Added to this you have SF and their supporters holding other parties to extremely high standards and themselves to almost none. Heads should roll over golf gate, but its perfectly fine for Mary Lou et al to attend the Bobby Storey funeral against guidelines as an example. "Rules are for thee and not for me" comes to mind.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    No other single politician has caused the issues that are coming down the road for Ireland than McEntee, Roderick the plonker a close second.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Mary Harney once stated that she would deem her career a failure if she didn't fix the health service. She has to be a contender considering that she actually made it worse and the changes she made are still hindering fixing it decades later.

    Quite noble that she refused her pension due to her failed career



    Oh wait



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,189 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    With the times that are in it, I can't believe no one has mentioned Joe "we'll send out your iodine tablets in a few months" Jacob.

    I mean what are the chances we get some nuclear fallout coming from the East sometime soon?

    Some poster asked what are the criteria for claiming a person is a bad TD.

    Is it they come across as buffoons that can't strink a coherent sentence together? Danny Healy Rae

    Is it they are buffoons whose ideas are nonsenical and will cost us dearly? ryan, all the greens, all sinn fein

    Is it that they are grossly out of their depth on topics they are in charge of? Cowen, Varadker, Harney, Donnelly, McEntee, O'Brien, Murphy

    Is it that they couldn't give two fecks about the national well being, but do huge work for their constituents? Healy Raes, Gregory.

    Is it that they were corrupt and just fill their own pockets? lawlor, haughey, callely

    Is it that they were very probably corrupt (can't be proven in court)? ahern, flynn, lowry, martin

    Is it that they contribute nothing anywhere and just collect a salary and pension? Durkin, Coppinger, flynn jnr, Murphy, etc

    Is it that they wrecked things and cost the taxpayers and citizens lot of money? cowen, ahern, coughlan, martin, ryan

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭boardise


    From what I see here the Irish electorate could be considered the worst electorate ever since it alone is responsible for projecting the hapless individuals listed above into the County Council Confederation ..oops sorry, I mean the national parliament commonly referred to as the Dawl. 🙃



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