Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Amazing turn out

How safe is our money in Revolut now? I have been using the savings vaults

Find his yacht and sink it

Look, we need to be serious about "European" military capability. Firstly, there is not a Europe. There is dozens of independent states with different national interests. Some in the EU. Some in NATO. Some not. Secondly, most European militaries are parade ground armies or otherwise focused on wars of choice against lightly armed militias in Africa or the Middle East.. The British and French are the most capable, but neither is built to fight an armoured conflict against Russia. The reality is the European militaries would take months to pull together deployable brigades, let alone divisions. Whereas the Russians regularly carry out military exercises involving over 100,000 troops and their equipment.

Sure, on paper "Europe" has more economic power, more manpower and more equipment in total. But Russia can act today - whereas it will take months or years for "Europe" to summon the political will or power to contest the Russian action. Availability is ability.

I think he moved it out of Germany a few weeks back... Shame

Completely agree. Russia should be treated as a complete pariah. No money in, no people out unless they are not from Russia, no flights, no trains, no comms, no phones, no trade (the Italians should be flogged for the BS they pulled on designer clobber. Keeping Putins cronies in their finery should n't even have been considered).

The Russian people should be told that for every day that their country remains in Ukraine the sanctions will extend by 1 month. You can choose Putin or you can choose sanctions. If you're still there in a month you can look forward to 3yrs of crippling sanctions. We'll see if Putin survives when the choice is that stark.

True. But it would only take one launch crew to go through with it for all hell to break loose. Especially since, as has been discussed on this thread if I remember correctly, nuclear release rules in the Russian forces, at least for the tactical weapons, aren't as strict as they are in the west.

It would make a nice floating bonfire 🔥

(No refunds if anyone is offended)

Also should go full on cyber attack on them (US plan could be extremely effective) have to really turn the Russians against Putin and this invasion

I didn't, might have me confused with someone else. Thanks for asking though :)

Given the range of ICBMs (11000km?) it would make no sense to be moving them around anywhere near Moscow: they could hit anywhere in Ukraine from existing locations in most of Russia, Also putting a conventional warhead on an ICBM designed to carry nukes would be un-necessarily expensive; there are smaller shorter range missiles which would do the job.

If they yanks were serious, they would put an executive order together to stop all US Companies selling to Russia. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Coke, Nike, the lot.

Same with Europe. Adidas, Car Company's, Heineken whatever. These are the type of sanctions on the likes of Sudan and North Korea.

I used to work for Hewlett Packard, we were not allowed to offer tech support to Sudan, Iran, North Korea etc (not that we ever got calls).

The sanctions on Russia are light. If they want to go back to a Soviet Era superstate they can have it. With all the Soviet trimmings.

I don't know anything about the top brass in the Russian military, but it would not particularly surprise me if Putin has generals in there who are as paranoid about the West as he is and so will remain loyal. Putin is clearly obsessed with retaining power and has probably war gamed every single scenario by which it could happen that he can possibly conceive of and budgeted for all of them.

On the other hand, I have to think that Putin does not take Zelensky seriously as a politician and statesman, and that he thinks Zelensky is only in the job because he caught a big protest vote, and Putin's hope would be that Zelensky's generals also feel the same - that when push comes to shove, they don't want a former actor/comedian running the show and will turn on him when the chips are down.