Russia - threadbanned users in OP

From the BBC

The supreme historical irony in all of this. Putin, in trying to refashion some kind of Russian Imperium has merely succeeded in driving all the former Western Soviet republics, and the countries of the former Eastern bloc, into the Western camp forever.

'Epic fail', I believe the kids call it.

A big difference watching this compared to the American invasions over the years. The Americans start with massive bombing and missile attacks, which can go on for weeks. Then when the opposition is really degraded and demoralised massive armies of ground troops go in, or they use disposable proxy armies. The Russians in contrast have gone in after a very light bombing campaign. I suspect that the battle plan may not have come from the Russian generals.

They won't need to send tanks in they would massacre Russian forces from the sky. Think Falaise pocket level of destruction, Ukraine is a very flat country with no place for their armoured columns to hide.

Zelensky really is a man who's had destiny thrust upon him. As opposed to Mad Vlad, who no doubt views himself as a man of destiny.

The contrast between the two couldn't be more stark.

Slowly moving towards this

Are you being forced to read posts?

Didn't think so , war is a dirty game, we've watched a country get surrounded and bullied by a foreign invader ,we were told its not going to happen ,and when it did that the Russians would wipe out the Ukrainian army in minutes,

Guess what the usual suspects have all being wrong since day one on here and every other thread over the last 8 years and there's been a good few .

The UKRAINIANs are Fighting like lions for every inch of their country , they are fighting for their lives and their families and the right to exist .

Nobody is cheering like they are at the fa cup .

But yes Glory ,Glory Ukraine United

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The death of Stalin is the guide book here, I wonder what Medvedev's plans are.

When the youth of Russia start dissapearing for protesting and their family and friends start asking questions, this will be a huge problem for Putin. This is happening the last couple of days. I think the more arrests they make in Russia, the more emboldened the protesters will become

Another miscalculation.

@malinheader Yes, war is terrible but war is war and (Almost) all is fair in love and war.

putin will be deep in his bunker, he'll know he's a target and will be taking no chances and would jump on any attempt to push his agenda (whatever that is).

Aren't they US-operated? Shooting one down would almost certainly trigger the NATO defence.