What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

We do have enough of all those things you claim we don't.

We absolutely do not. We're one quarter of a trillion euros in debt.

we just have government that don't govern right.

Agreed, and the opposition are no better at all.

nothing to do with people from other countries and everything to do with our own government

It's a bit of both - we've the mega-rich speculators from abroad purchasing everything we build up for a song aided by our government, we also have welfare leeches from abroad who our government will not deport despite having the legislation to do so.

But it's par for the course in Ireland, the working and middle classes are leeched from the bottom by welfare spongers and from the top by the silver-spooners who invent every trick to avoid paying their share.

One question the supporters of these policies will never answer is... how many can come here before we say enough? Put a figure on it.

But they won't. They want unlimited immigration and they don't want an expiry date on that either.

So weak are the arguments for multi-culturalism that the advocates of such policies resort to attacking those with differing opinions. They level accusations of racism as their default argument, and usually it's the only argument they've got. All of your concerns about immigration are really deep rooted/subconscious racist thoughts and you're abusing your white privilege or some shyte like that when bringing up your points they'll insist.

They are when they get invited to the regular Civic Citizenship Ceremonies, a few thousand every year. These started in 2011.

If someone decides to apply for citizenship of this country, then they should be entitled to vote in the exact same way as every other citizen.

Eh no. In time we will see groups of different cultures become large enough to sway elections. Would you like to see the Marriage Equality Referendum be put back on the table for another vote because a large enough cultural group here wants it gone? Be careful of what you wish for.

Of course asylum seekers are not eligible for citizenship either......

Fake News and mis-information:

From: https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/becoming_an_irish_citizen_through_naturalisation.html#l7e9cb

Of course, not everyone wishes to become Irish citizens, which should be encouraged of course.

Why should we be encouraging people to become Irish citizens? We're a nation not a football supporters club.

Asylum seekers are not refugees. Your the one with fake news I'm afraid.

It barely makes a difference in Ireland https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30920320.html with 85% getting to stay on here.

Yes if someone is a citizen of a country of course they should have a vote in how it is run. You know the marriage referendum was to amend the constitution yes?

With the current laissez-faire approach to giving citizenship I don't think voting rights should be extended so easily. You know the constitution can be amended at any time - marriage vote can be reversed again.

Why should we encourage people to become citizens? Because people who are citizens of a country tend to see that country as home, they are likely to stay, perhaps have families and become valuable members of society. Why would we not encourage people to care about the country? Do you want a migrant population, living here for a few years, moving on again, having no interest in the country, or not caring about the country or its population

Encouraging more people to come here is putting further strain on services, I've listed lots of reasons including housing, healthcare, education and welfare earlier in this thread as to why it's a bad idea to continue with unrestricted migration and our laissez-faire asylum/refugee system. You chose to ignore most of that though.

Of course it makes a difference. Unless you believe all non Irish people are the same. An asylum seeker is not a refugee.

There is little difference in the outcomes for Asylum Seekers arriving in Ireland. The article I linked above shows that only 10 were sent back out of a figure of 1,275 that arrived here in 2018 - but I guess you never bothered to read it?

What is the lassaiz faire attitude to citizenship and in what world do you think it could be acceptable for citizens of a country to not be allowed vote?

See my previous post about Citizenship Ceremonies. I don't think it's acceptable for voting rights to be extended to new citizens, especially in large numbers, when their influence could change our country. Would you for instance like to see Sharia Law being introduced to Ireland, would you like to see laws enacted such as the LGBT free zones that sprung up in Poland?

Nobody is ever putting a clause back into the constitution in relation to marriage. Crazy to even suggest otherwise.

Can you be so sure? I'll have the six numbers to Wednesday night's lotto there while you're at it! Problem is with advocates for open-borders policy is they are so naïve to think that nothing bad will happen, or Ireland will do multi-culturalism differently than the UK, France, Germany, USA, etc... where they've first hand experiences of how it doesn't work.

I cannot even take you serious because I explain why it's a good idea for people living in a country to become citizens, you then talk about encouraging people to come here and then continue to speak about asylum seekers and refugees, when you don't even understand the difference.

You don't take me serious because you've no serious counter argument to any of the points I raised earlier, you won't address any of them, Funny that. You think that saying I don't understand the difference between asylum seekers and refugees is some sort of 'gotcha' moment. I've explained above that when it comes to Ireland's open border policy, the distinguishment between the two is very thin and blurred.

And the point that anyone who wishes to become a citizen of Ireland must obviously already be a resident of the country 🙄

Like I said, we're not a football supporters club, we're a nation - one that should be respected and maintained for the people who have resided here for centuries.

Yes, maintained for the people who have lived here through thick and thin and have made this country what it is today despite it's ills.

I extend the same wishes for the peoples of any other country around the world - The Norwegians, that their country be the best for the Norwegian peoples; The Nigerians, that their country be the best for the Nigerian peoples; The Japanese, that their country be the best for the Japanese peoples, and so forth...

I don't hold the opinion that mass immigration into any country is good for that country. There should be strict criteria for anyone crossing any border to set up home elsewhere.