Russia - threadbanned users in OP

gandalf · 28-02-2022 8:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710445#Comment_118710445

Yep I've used the function for the first time today to remove the whatabouttery from the bots. It was effecting my blood pressure. I've been a member since this site started and have never used it before.

Heraclius · 28-02-2022 8:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710512#Comment_118710512

They really upset me today too. I couldn't believe what I was reading on a day when seeing pictures of horror from Kharkiv.

Donald Trump · 28-02-2022 8:40pm

It will rain tomorrow, or it will stay dry all day

Jinglejangle69 · 28-02-2022 8:43pm

Russian UN ambassador just said Ukraine started the shelling and killing.

Can easily see how the Russian nation is brainwashed.

Necro · 28-02-2022 8:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710518#Comment_118710518

Some people actually thrive on playing the 'contrarian' role. They live off getting those reactions. Physically placing them on ignore or scrolling past their nonsense deprives them of the oxygen they crave.

billyhead · 28-02-2022 8:46pm

I'm in no way condoning Putin's actions in Ukraine but is it true that there was acts of genocide against ethnic Russians living in Ukraine by Ukraine armed militia before the war broke out?

Richard Hillman · 28-02-2022 8:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710501#Comment_118710501

Exactly. He has probably been told for years, the military is in great nick, the could invade anything. The Ukrainians yurn to be Russian again, they sing songs of your name in private gatherings.

He is actively trying to take Kharkiv. It won't fall without it being flattened. Surely he knows this by now. Surely somebody in the military has said change the plan. Just surround it, focus on the Luhansk and Donbass. Nothing makes sense on it.

Necro · 28-02-2022 8:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710551#Comment_118710551

According to Russia, yes.

So no, in actual truth-land.

brianhere · 28-02-2022 8:48pm

I know its look a bit like saying two things at once, but the point is that the current war cannot last. Putin cannot take those Ukrainian cities without massive casualties, and his popularity in Russia cannot survive that, so he will end it quickly or it will be a wider conflict.

jmreire · 28-02-2022 8:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710253#Comment_118710253

And now it looks like he will have to physically occupy the cities if he wants to claim control them. Barraging them with Grads was the easy part. Now watch the Russian soldier death toll rise.

road_high · 28-02-2022 8:51pm

Why an I still seeing 1980s style Russian “fashion” ads?!

paul71 · 28-02-2022 8:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710551#Comment_118710551

No

Field east · 28-02-2022 8:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710543#Comment_118710543

Ukraine has a golden opportunity to communicate with the ordinary Russian family to get the truth across. I assume every Russian captured or killed has a mobile number of family back home or those killed would have some kind of a contact number on them. So ring them all up and tell the family that they may have a relative of their’s here and……………….., the captured soul died can talk live but UNDER SUPERVISION. I expect that these soldiers are from the poorer cohort of Russian society. The cohort that are relatively brainwashed

Drumpot · 28-02-2022 8:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710586#Comment_118710586

Yeh they went away for a day and are back again.

Kermit.de.frog · 28-02-2022 8:53pm

Russia's foreign ministry has said that those supplying lethal weapons to Ukraine will bear responsibility should they be used during Russia's military campaign there.

The ministry added that the steps the European Union has taken against Russia will not be left without a harsh response.

Earlier, the EU's foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said that EU countries will give fighter jets to Ukraine, as the bloc agrees to transport weapons worth €450 million to Kyiv

Russian Foreign Ministry putting a shot across the bow of those European countries sending weapons. It's a reminder that Russia may find it hard to see a distinction between belligerents and non-billigerents if their soldiers start getting killed at the hands of those weapons provided by the latter.

Arming Ukraine is risky but I think the right thing to do.

Galwayguy35 · 28-02-2022 8:54pm

Saw a video earlier that Russian soldiers made showing the bodies of the Ukrainian soldiers they killed, its only when you see something like that you realise how brutal this conflict is on the ground.

A Ukrainian MP was talking on Drivetime just after 6pm, she was in a bunker taking cover from an air raid and that Cormac whats his name asks her how she is doing!

Not content with asking one stupid question he asks her what they need from Ireland and when she says weapons to arm the men and women on the front line he then goes into a big spiel about Ireland being a neutral country.

jmreire · 28-02-2022 8:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710271#Comment_118710271

Good !!!! Bring it on. Had it been done earlier, might have given Putin 2nd thoughts. As it is, had his original plane worked ( rapid take over of Ukraine) then Finland might have been next on the list. ( and not the only one either)

Yurt2 · 28-02-2022 8:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710551#Comment_118710551

Like f*ck there was. There was a stinging and nasty war in 2014 generated by Putin, where he invited in Don Cossack militias, Kremlin-connected mercenaries and unbadged Russian military to stir sh*t and set up fake ass pliable puppet states.

Talk of genocide is the fakest of fake news and a slur. It's a deadly serious charge and that needs to be backed up. Zero evidence of genocide and it's only said to enflame and set the stage for wider war. 1.5 million fled West into other parts of Ukraine, probably a majority of them ethnic Russians. Don't believe what comes out mouths of the Kremlin sh*tbags. They want breathing space to conduct war, don't give it to them.

realdanbreen · 28-02-2022 8:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710551#Comment_118710551

Yes you are! This is about the here and now, the invasion of Ukraine. Thousands of innocent are probably going to be slaughtered over the next few days by putins forces. So come back with your history lessons at a more appropriate time.

road_high · 28-02-2022 8:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710593#Comment_118710593

Presume it’s some kind of hacking of anti Russian (ie the truth) type discussions allover the west by the Putin bots?

28-02-2022 8:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710518#Comment_118710518

With all respect to you, if we are talking about annoying posts, this kind of thing gets me more than the wind up posts.

This thread is about a war, a hard winter war happening in real time, people are dieing, people are losing their homes and their families. But more and more people here are getting 'upset' about other people's mean posts.

Someone else is 'crying hard' about obviously fake texts being read out at the UN, another is asking how to get to Ukraine to fight but we all know that's just posturing, another is begging everyone to - look at me I sent money into a Ukraine bank account.

Also, ffs, there are no 'Russian bots' here. There are a few wind up merchants teasing people, if you can't handle that you have no business commenting on a real war in Ukraine.

Maybe we should have a 'sensitive' thread, for all the sensitive people.

Kermit.de.frog · 28-02-2022 8:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710551#Comment_118710551

I think genocide might be a strong word but the Russians definitely have a case in the two Eastern provinces in terms of Russian speakers and how they were treated.

The issue is they've gone about things in a way where they are too easy to paint as the bad guys.

In relation to this invasion, it's just strategic bullying and criminality by Russia.

There are other ways they could have highlighted issues in Donbass and even got sympathy. Instead they sent mercenaries to forment a war there.

28-02-2022 8:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710486#Comment_118710486

This is a very real concern. Conflict weapons feeding the black market has been happening for years, Ukraine has the largest arms trafficking market in Europe. A lot of the volunteer battalions get bored and slip off home and bury their weapons or sell them to the highest bidders.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/01/21/why-sending-anti-tank-weapons-to-ukraine-may-end-badly/

The weapons pouring into that region lately however are far more sophisticated than have been previously seen. The thought of Stingers and Javelins floating around the black market doesn't bear thinking about.

There have also been concerns voiced in the intelligence community that the Azov battalion provided training for American right wing groups. There are even suggestions Brent Tarrant (who shot up the NZ mosques) had some contact with Azov Battalion.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/fbi-neo-nazi-militia-trained-by-us-military-in-ukraine-now-training-us-white-supremacists/251687/

Heraclius · 28-02-2022 9:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710620#Comment_118710620

I didn't say anything about Russian bots in my comment. I'll continue to comment unless a mod says otherwise.

growleaves · 28-02-2022 9:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710544#Comment_118710544

This thread is 'contrarian' out of sync with the mainstream.

BBC, CNN just says Russia faces "stiffer than expected resistance" in taking Kiev.

Posters here say Putin will commit suicide/be assassinated/Russia will collapse

Richard Hillman · 28-02-2022 9:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710551#Comment_118710551

A lot of Ukrainians were forced to leave Luhansk and Donetsk.

There were incidents after 2014 when Pro-Russian protesters were killed by Ukrainians. One incident in Odessa was widely reported.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes

It would be wrong to say that there have not been localised incidents of Ukrainian-Russians being told to clear off out of communities. But it has been totally overblown and not government sanctioned.

I have been pure Pro-Ukrainian since this kicked off last week but it has to be acknowledged that it wasn't free and easy before it. There was stuff going on that the Ukrainian government should not have done. Giving the Azov Battalion military accreditation was one of them.

None of it. Not one jot justifies what has been happening this last week.

Yurt2 · 28-02-2022 9:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118710621#Comment_118710621

You can go to any city in Ukraine and freely converse in Russian and no one will bat an eyelid. Russian is the language of the street in Kyiv by a healthy margin.

There was an ill-advised language law that was poorly implemented, but notions of discrimination is more Kremlin nonsense. And if you're asking if it's an appropriate pretext for national dismemberment and a devastating war I'd say you're insane.

People have short memories, but Putin tried to stir sh*t in Estonia and Latvia as well over language laws as well. Would we be all wringing our hands and prevaricating if Russia invaded Estonia or Latvia over their language laws? Would we f*ck.

There is no excuse for what Putin is doing. Don't give oxygen to fascism.