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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The Ukrainians did keep the Minsk agreements Russia broke my Minsk 1 and 2 repeatedly



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,922 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Air raid sirens going off on a Kyiv livestream, bone-chilling stuff. Europe 2022, unreal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    If the Americans were invading Ukraine there would be hundreds of thousands of people dead; the power infrastructure would have been destroyed and the water infrastructure would have been destroyed.


    It's possible to support the people of Ukraine at this time while recognising that the Americans are vastly worse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭vimalandrew


    The military conflict between Ukraine and Russia will enter its sixth day on March 1. 

    The war has created new divisions and confrontations on a global scale. It also makes the situation of the battlefield, the European and even the global situation more complicated and uncertain. But we must note that under current circumstances, the door for a peaceful settlement of the Ukrainian issue is not completely closed.

    A Ukrainian delegation reportedly arrived in Belarus on Monday for negotiations with Russia, and the talk took place in the afternoon of the same day. Although both parties and the outside world hold little hope for a breakthrough in a short period of time in the negotiations, returning to the negotiating table is always a good start. The world's truly peace-loving countries and forces should make good use of this seemingly weak turnaround and do more to promote peace talks rather than adding fuel to the fire.

    Information on the Russia-Ukraine military conflict is rapidly changing, getting far more confusing than it was previously, and it is difficult to distinguish the truth from falsehood. In this process, the US' public opinion war is getting more and more intensifying. We have noticed that some voices are attempting to create a very misleading and an extremely wrong theory of "China's special responsibility." They even fabricate disinformation to smear and slander China's image by virtue of the Russia-Ukraine crisis. It must be pointed out that the public opinion of the US, as an important party in the Russia-Ukraine crisis, is completely made to defend US interests. It aims to push China to fill the hole dug by the US and the West, although China is not a party to the crisis. Such a practice is neither decent nor fair.

    Throughout the development of the Ukraine crisis, it is way too obvious that the US has been creating the crisis, transferring it and profiting from it. Even now, it has not stopped stirring up trouble, which is quite dangerous. It has also made use of its public opinion machine to condemn others to take the international community hostage with its selfish interests.

    Washington is the "special responsible party" for the Ukraine crisis, and the US-led NATO holds tight the key to its solution. As former US congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard said in an interview, "Biden can very easily prevent a war with Russia by guaranteeing that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO." What she said was totally true, but the US mainstream media, unfortunately, not only selectively ignored such truth, but also deliberately exploited and consumed the suffering of the Ukrainian people. 

    Warfare is not a game for children. It is time to stop Washington's public opinion war in the troubled situation, as the opinion war does not serve any purpose other than to encourage new confrontations. As there are extremely complex historical and practical factors in the evolution of the Ukraine issue, any attempt to simplify this historical narrative is often selfishly motivated or even with evil motives. It is important to see that both Russia and Ukraine have a certain degree of intention to negotiate, and the possibility of a political and diplomatic solution still exists. At the same time, the emerging powers, including India, Brazil and Argentina, did not follow the US "condemnation," but issued rational and pragmatic voices. These voices represent the views of a significant part of the international community, only simply ignored by Western media. The judgment of the Russia-Ukraine war should not be monopolized by the West, but should be handed over to the international community. 

    The US-led NATO is a product of the Cold War, and the Russia-Ukraine crisis, in essence, is a wound re-created in Europe by the coffin board of the Cold War. Europe is standing at the crossroads of war and peace, and the representatives of Russia and Ukraine have sat down at the negotiating table. All parties should have more patience, try hard to create conditions for reconciliation, rather than turning the negotiations into another battlefield for selfish gain. Washington, in particular, should shoulder the "special responsibility," instead of continuing to be the source of chaos. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭john123470




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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,172 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    If anyone wants to ,it's

    Mick.wallace@ep.europa.eu



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,922 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,389 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Beginning to think the plan is to flatten Kyiv and Kharkiv, declare Donbas "free" , close off the entire Black sea coast to Ukraine as well for good measure and declare job done.

    Then "why are the West picking on Mother Russia for freeing our opressed people, look what the nazi civil war did in Kyiv in Kharkiv, we saved our people from that".

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭weisses


    I remember growing up with these things being tested every month ... Even the test runs were scary



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    @vimalandrew more unsourced rubbish copypasted from Global Times (CCP newspaper).



  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    The far left have lived their whole lives basically being anti-western, anti-NATO, anti-capitalism. When reality slaps them in the face, they can't handle it and start to short circuit. You'd have thought the millions of deaths attributed to Communism might have put them off, but without fail they still trumpet its precursor of socialism and some even blatantly call for actual communism. Typically seen on student campuses across the west. They have a very strict inflexible world view/narrative and nothing will shift that.

    I mean we had them collaborating with the Russians during the cold war. The morning star was originally a Russian disinfo paper. Still is really.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,922 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Uuhh, did you just plagiarize Chinese propaganda and try to pass it off as your own?

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1253542.shtml



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    There's always a lot of word policing with these kinds of things. He seems to have taken umbrage with the phrase "situation in Ukraine", and presumably would rather, "Attack on Ukraine", believing this to be a deliberate choice of words to avoid offending the Chinese investors.

    I can guarantee there have been 1,000 emails sent this week using the phrase "situation in Ukraine" with no political motive to downplay what is happening. Yes, one could choose less fluffy language, but it's fairly standard in any formal email to write like this. The UCD statement even says, "violations of international law" in the next breath. Obviously we don't know the deeper context here and what had been happening in UCD up to then. Seems like this guy was already exasperated and this hit a nerve that was the last straw for him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,184 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    That fella sounds far too confident tat Russia could have flattened Kiev already. I imagine that the troops in Kiev are some kind of advanced party with light weapons like paratroopers or similar. They're moving the heavier artillery up now and I really doubt they're afraid of killing civilians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭john123470


    How very dare you !

    Its not ok to speak your mind on this forum, Marie

    The gang are at full tilt



  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Subzero3


    In 2 weeks Ukraine will be part of Russia.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Sounds like you're the one getting emotional Wibbs.

    Ok so lets sacrifice the Ukraine for couple more years before the NovoFuhrer eyes up another country and does the same to them. What then rinse repeat until its gets to a country that people either care about or one that has nukes of its own?

    This needs to be faced down and hope that those around Putin realise that they have to act.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    No chance.

    At most the Ukranians will have a peace that accepts Russian troops in Luhansk and accepts the loss of Crimea.

    If the Russians get 'stuck' there then Putin is over. The Russians won't accept it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,857 ✭✭✭growleaves


    'Are people like Diane Abbott, Richard Boyd Barrett, Jeremy Corbyn etc, really naive, really stupid, or actively bad?'

    I think they're a little robotic in repeating decades-old political formulas, they hear the word 'NATO' and a tape starts playing an inner monologue in their brain and their mouth starts moving.

    Of course they are also Trotskyists which makes them 'bad' to me but that's not the kind of badness that most people object to ordinarily.

    It doesn't matter that much really.

    Even if Corbyn had been PM the policy would probably be the same as Johnson's - lot of shouting and 'getting tough', covert help, US-led sanctions and no direct intervention.

    The pressure for every single person and institution to make a condemnation of Putin and Russia is a bit silly. If I start a lemonade stand and its a non-aligned lemonade stand is someone going to come and smash it up?

    GOP governors, including Greg Abbott of Texas, are ordering retailers to remove all Russian products, including vodka, from the shelves. That's the kind of tough action that boardsies can get behind!



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,184 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    These aren't my opinions, these are the stories the Russians tells themselves to able themselves the heroes.

    The resistance to the existence of a narrative where Russians are the hero, and adherence to the narrative in which were the hero, shows the power of propaganda. The truth of their stories or our stories aren't really important. It's just Important to know what the stories are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Russian death and destruction is better than American death and destruction.

    Tell you what, you should find a way to contact some of the Ukrainians in bunkers and cheer them up by telling them it could have been worse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,922 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Don't see any issue with people advocating the boycott of Russian goods. Even if it's a small thing, they all add up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,389 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I was once visiting relatives in China in a city called Gong'An (near Wuhan) when the air raid sirens went off. Sweet jebus it was soo loud and scary i nearly had an accidant. It was only when i noticed that the locals didnt seem so bothered that i realised the Americans wern't bombing them! Can only imagine the utter terror when its the real thing:-(

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭Shelga


    But the Americans aren’t invading Ukraine, Putin is, so I’ve no idea what your point is?



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