Russia - threadbanned users in OP

World bank halting all projects in Belarus and Russia.

You sound like you're on a boner over it!

Have you ever read about the downfall of Ceaușescu in Romania? One demonstration where he was heckled. One day the military were shooting protestors on his behalf and then four or five days later hauled him into a filthy back room for a makeshift trial. A few minutes later he was shot by firing squad.

The military believed he had murdered the minister for defence, though he may have actually committed suicide.

Just one unforeseen event can turn things dramatically in a totally unexpected direction. Dictators have swung in public squares so often it’s almost as though it’s part of the way they work.

At approximately 09:30 on the morning of 22 December Vasile Milea, Ceaușescu's minister of defence, died under suspicious circumstances. A communiqué by Ceaușescu stated that Milea had been sacked for treason, and that he had committed suicide after his treason was revealed.[34] The most widespread opinion at the time was that Milea hesitated to follow Ceaușescu's orders to fire on the demonstrators, even though tanks had been dispatched to downtown Bucharest that morning. Milea was already in severe disfavour with Ceaușescu for initially sending soldiers to Timișoara without live ammunition. Rank-and-file soldiers believed that Milea had actually been murdered and went over virtually en masse to the revolution. Senior commanders wrote off Ceaușescu as a lost cause and made no effort to keep their men loyal to the regime. This effectively ended any chance of Ceaușescu staying in power.[26]

Realism.

How many civilian and children deaths will be too much to stop us all thinking Ukraine can stop Russia?

His support is clearly dropping in Russia as a result of this, the protests are getting bigger. They are becoming stretched thin and there will come a critical point. Belarus already went through this last year only to be crushed, not by Belarusian authorities but with the aid of Russia. They are now sabotaging their own railway network to stop supply chains. The tide is turning and I suspect if the Belarusian people return to protest it'll become much more difficult for the people in Russia to pass off as Western Propaganda.

Are Russian civilians thick and believe state media or would most have access to VPN?

How many will be too much to stop Russia thinking they can take what they want? If there isn't a number then they were never stopping, which country is next?

By those stats the number dieing was going down every year. Going from 486 in 2017 to 74 in 2020.

In the last 5 days there has been twice the number of civilians killed than in the last 5 years of the conflict in Donbass and Luhansk. Then you factor in the soldiers who are killed in the last few days and this war is far from over.

And by Russia invading all of the Ukraine and putting in a puppet government will have far more civilians killed in the years to come from surgency.

There is no jusdication for this invasion if the mission was to save civilian life...Now you will deflect that fact by talking about some other invasion rather than the one we are dealing with now and it's jusdication.

If a country invaded russia in the morning would you not give an opinion whether it is justified or not untill it becomes clear as to why they were doing it even tho thousand were initially getting killed?

You were over in the Covid threads for the past couple of years trying to pass yourself off as an expert on all all things Covid! Now you're over here trying to pass yourself off as an expert on all things Russia when in reality you haven't a fecking clue.

As were you….

But you’re the expert all of a sudden!??

Lets bookmark this and come back in a week!!!?

Newsnight also thought that it would be the west that would close the gas pipeline if the images from Ukraine got too horrific. Tbh I think it makes sense if we're really aiming to crash his regime asap to stop sending him hundreds of millions of euro per day to pay his murdering armies.

To be honest, he had no choice. A large part of the Russian military are conscripts. Poorly paid and when the **** hits the fan, motivation would be a big issue. People act like it’s a big plan or physch to send in the fodder to grind down, and then the heavy guys to finish them off. But if he was to send in the heavies at the start and it didn’t go to plan, the fodder at the back won’t be able to do **** to help.

plus it shows Putin to be the despotic fuckwit we all know he is. Doesn’t give a **** about any of of these troops.