Helen McEntee & Those Donations - threadbanned users in OP

Grasping at straws now.

The criticism you gave was about a tweet. Which as I pointed out was perfectly fine and gave you an example of a person who was tweeting at the same time trying to firelight the situation in search of votes.

So far I have provided multiple pieces of proof of the lady experience and education yet you accuse me of "incredibly lazy and simplistic". I have yet to see anything on this thread to say she is inexperienced, in fact the opposite with European politicians complimenting her, but I suppose we should ignore all of this?

Instead of admitting the lady is educated we have multiple people now trying to belittle anyone who get a Masters, even when again I have provided information on how difficult they are to get.

If provide details and facts are "lazy and simplistic", I am interested to hear what you call the information you and other have provided thus far with nothign to back it up?

I am sure if you started up a thread to slag everything about the women then yes the statement would be correct. I made reference to one tweet, huge difference.

Did I say anything about her education? No.

But as you asked, her Masters is on the lower end of the masters academic hierarchy and while from a 3rd Level Institute is not from a university. Also a Masters in her field is not in any way relevant to her role as Minister for Justice. A Masters in today’s highly competitive workplace is not something that sets one apart from the competition - in many careers it is seen as a “minimum every requirement”, but more on this later.

She is in my opinion completely unqualified for the role she holds. Equally, she has not displayed - at least to me - any above average intellect when I have seen her on television or heard her on radio.

At the risk of stating the complete obvious could she not have perhaps sought a role in the Dept. Of Communicatons, and left a portfolio such as Justice for someone with - heaven forbid - a legal qualification?

I did not (as you know) say your provision of facts and details were lazy and simplistic. I was referring to your over-arching argument that any and all criticism of her was based on or was inherently rooted in sexism.

I also happen to personally know the McEntee family, and I have worked with her uncle whom I actually like. My criticism of his niece is not based on any hatred of or personal grudge against the family, nor is it based on her sex.

Speaking of Masters - and I assure you this is not intended as some sort of humblebrag, merely to provide context - but I hold 2 of them, and an additional 5 Post Graduate qualifications in addition to my primary degree. I also hold a part-time academic post in one of the universities in Dublin. Would I be qualified to be Minister for Justice based on this?

Yes, you’re absolutely correct. Only an elitist would think a Masters in Applied Mathematics and a Masters in Applied Spirituality (an actual course btw) are not exactly the same thing requiring the same level of intellect and dedication to complete either.

Do you think it is funny trying to ridicule others people Masters?

Is that really what you think I was trying to do there? Seriously? You really are going out of your way to take offence at every opportunity it seems.

I was stating my belief that not all Masters are equal, despite whatever an accreditation body will say about them all being Level 9. I have 2 Masters, one taught and one research; I can assure you the amount of work required for the research Masters was a multiple of that required for the taught one. It is a gross over-simplification to say they are all the same because they are not and with respect, having completed 2 I think I’m in a better and more experienced position than most to comment on that.

I didn't say having a Master qualified Helen, that was clearly lost on you. I just said having a Masters confirms she is educated. I think the comment made was "she isn't someone for girls to look up to" or something along those lines. I personally think a lady who has got a Masters and worked her way to Minister for Justice plus all the other experience is someone to look up to.

Re. knowing the family and knowing or not knowing what she has done - what do you not understand about this? What is strange about it? I have worked with her uncle as I stated but not her personally. I have met her a couple of times. Can you not know someone’s family without knowing the details of every single member of that family?

This is not a topic for the thread but I suggest you read up on what happened.

If she had posted a tweet like you suggest it would be totally idiotic at a time when the whole area was like a ticking bomb and would have resulted in risking more lives in the public and the Gardai

I disagree it’s not a topic for the thread because it was her tweet we’re talking about. A Minister for Justice should not be tweeting about serious incidents like that prior to any required investigations being conducted and concluded. Her tweeting her woke-BLM style tweet was in my opinion irresponsible at best, and potentially dangerous at worst.

She should have considered the impact that incident had on the Gardai and Mr. Nchenko’s many victims. I also sincerely doubt if it had been a white inner city man with a similar history of crime as Nchenko would she have tweeted anything that day. I may be incorrect in this but I don’t recall her tweeting any other families of young men who have lost their lives in a violent manner since she became Minister - but I’m open to correction on that.

My previously stated position on this was she should not have commented on the matter at all, but it appears she couldn’t turn down the opportunity to play to the gallery.