Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I used to think that but every day the war goes on and Putin's reputation is chipped away more and more for not easily taking over a country the more I think he may make the order. The only grounding thing is I don't think there are enough suicidal idiots that would relay the order and for the button to actually get pressed

Whats not enough ,

Thousands of anti aircraft missiles , thousands of anti tank weapons , thousands of Small arms and artillery ,they the Ukrainians are doing a bloody fantastic Job ,I'd love to see Nato airstrikes but it'd not going happen ,in the meantime they are giving Putin a public bloody nose ,by all accounts thanks to Nato weapons they have stalled the 30 km convoy outside of Kiev after taking out the lead vehicles ,it's one long kill zone the Russians can't retreat from and the longer they sit there the more damage Ukraine will do ,

Life in Kyiv now. Still so surreal

A 43-year-old father and resident of Kyiv spoke to the Guardian about how life has changed since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began a week ago.

My son’s a very brave boy. He’s trying not to cry. He’s trying to help. But every time the siren sounds from outside the window, and we have to run downstairs to the shelter again, I can see he’s scared. But he doesn’t panic.

That day I was standing with a neighbour outside in our yard. Suddenly we heard gunshots from automatic rifles close by. Later I read the news via Telegram that Russian troops were trying to infiltrate the city. It said they were liquidated.

At the moment you hear gunfire, you’re not afraid – you don’t have time to be afraid, you just have to get your son to safety in the car park. The shock comes a little later, when you realise you could have been killed

hats off to the Azov Battalion, fierce fighters though even if they are nazis!

That Sky News video is absolutely chilling, very lucky crew.

I thought journalism was dead after COVID, but my god the reports out of Ukraine have been something else (incl Stuart Ramsay). There’s 2 Irish journos on BBC reporting most nights who are also brilliant. (Orla Guerin and Fergal Keane?)

it is entirely feasible those 70 fighter jets the EU supposedly promised to Ukraine actually got spirited in somehow, though the EU now deny they ever agreed to it

Just like he can’t invade a sovereign nation.

Just like he can’t poison humans with novichock nerve agent in NATO countries

just like he can’t make the Russian duma pass laws that carry a 15 year prison sentence for spreading false information.

Just like he wouldn’t threaten the west by putting his nuclear deterents on alert

Just like he wouldn’t threaten Finland with military consequences if it joined NATO.

To be honest I don’t think you’ve though this through and your reacting off emotion.

Again NATO cannot officially intervene here.

Interesting map of where refugees of the war have migrated

Wonder how many went to Russia and Belarus willingly

I don't need to say that. I've said that neither though or I have any idea who was or wasn't in that building. But you've decided it most likey doesn't include legitimate military targets like ukranian snipers or reconnaissance or just Ukrainian resistance having a rest.

And you've based thar on no evidence, just the fact that the ukranians have an army. If you were being honest, you'd say you don't have a clue and I know neither of us have a clue because if either of us were involved enough to have a clue, then we wouldn't have time to post on Boards.ie.

So our choice is to accept the facts we see (an apartment block was shelled) or believe our own editorial which is that the Russians shelled an apartment block out of malice because there weren't any legitimate Ukranian militarily targets in the block and Ukranian militarily would never even sleep in an apartment block or use an apartment block for legitimate military purposes like sniping or reconnaissance or sleeping, because...

If we're honest, we'll admit we haven't a clue. And I support Ukraine without pretending I know what's really happening.

It's grim to look at that map, you can see the real focus is the south, trying to encircle Ukrainian forces in LNR and DNR, whilst putting pressure on Kyiv.

Just like he can’t poison humans with novichock nerve agent in NATO countries

And what did NATO do exactly to punish him? Yes nothing. In an all out war they be the cowards that wouldn't get involved.

Just like he wouldn’t threaten Finland with military consequences if it joined NATO.

And so if Finland joined, would Nato leave them on their own in the likely event of an Attack? I think they actually would they are so useless.