Russia - threadbanned users in OP

All Ukraine can do is focus on their own situation. They could hardly be expected to give in to the Russians because there might be food shortages or price hikes elsewhere. Egypt, which will be impacted by this, would not let themselves be overrun by the Israelis to prevent the price of rice going up in Thailand.

I'm basing my argument on projections made by people who actually understand the dangers of nuclear war.

Here for instance is a link to a Princeton University study on the subject which produced a simulation of a nuclear war from a couple of years ago ; https://sgs.princeton.edu/the-lab/plan-a

I've attached a video of said simulation for you also.

I'm not basing my argument on lazy opinion but rather fact, you have provided no evidence to support your position on the subject.

I did answer your question by saying that sanctions will eventually cripple Putins ability to continue his war.

I can simplify it for you if you wish; we shouldn't give Putin what he wants.

A couple of posts up I provided a link to a reliable simulation of a nuclear war, it's worth a look.

Do they really have a gmail account for the embassy??

I am not the one making wild claims like saying the war would over in '20 hours' and the world destroyed etc.

You have now just produced some research and the key words in the video are 'could happen' not WILL happen which you seem so certain off.

Sooner or later we will have to stand up to Putin, its getting closer by the day as more NATO troops move to neighbouring countries like Hungary etc.

There is ample evidence that Putin does not want to escalate this beyond Ukraine, or get NATO directly involved. He already made his empty threat that countries that interfere with his invasion will face consequences that they have never known in their history. Yet here we are with countries all over Europe openly sending out press releases on what they are sending to help destroy Russian armour and aircraft. They know more about the situation than we are privy to. The sanctions already announced amount to high intensity economic warfare, there's no other way of describing it.

On top of that, he is actively hiding the scale of the invasion and the losses from the public. He is under more threat from inside Russia at the moment than outside but there has been no martial law announced yet. He has not declared a state of emergency and it seems he has put all his bets on this invasion reaching its goals quickly and decisively.

There is no basis to argue that we are near the brink of nuclear war as things stand at this moment.

While it is an interesting video to watch, it doesny really say much thay we don't already know. You're trying to say that people here have no idea what a nuclear war means, when in fact everyone knows. It's end of days, it doesn't need to be spelled out in some b-movie simulation like we're all 5. It's like saying 'do you really know what will happen if we run out of oxygen?'

Of course we fuckin know.

Short and bald - the man just hates life

Here's hoping, but you'd figure that if there's one thing they've really put money into keeping up to date, in good nick, and really made sure was done as correctly as they possibly could, it would have been maintenance of their nuclear deterrent.

Considering that the current net zero ideology which proposes to keep all fossil fuels in the ground will mean that fertilisers (which are made using petrochemicals) won't be around for much longer if the greens get their way

Currently levels of global food production based heavily on that fertiliser use means that the world actually has a surplus of food. Problems are mainly with localised food supplies with hunger and starvation being as a result of localised corruption, inequality, warfare and local environmental conditions. Of which places like Africa tend to be particularly affected and that's before any wars in other parts of the world.

This simplefied overview gives a synopsis of some of the existing problems of our global food supply.

https://www.worldhunger.org/letter-food-shortage-world-questions/