Charges for dropoff and collect to be imposed in Dublin airport

There's talk of a rail link now from Clongriffin to the Airport. Would help a bit.

None of that is DAA's problem though. If you want that to change you need to tell your local councillors and TDs how much you want and support public transport initiatives like BusConnects. And when your busybody neighbours start banging on moaning about bus corridors and cycle lanes you tell them to cop the fvck on and accept that public transport has to have top priority on the roads if we want a functional system.

The problem is when people pull up to collect people outside the terminal. It can cause problems when things are busy.

If there's no service being provided, you'll have no problem when access is restricted and charges are imposed then.

Who do you think should pay for the machines, the infrastructure, the cost of managing the funds etc?

Surprised it’s been free as long as it has been. As usual it’s motorists that are ruining it for other motorists by abusing the trust system.

Its only a few euros, a tiny amount in the overall cost of car ownership so not sure why people are losing their $hit over this one.

DAA is listed as a 'related party transaction' for Dublin Bus. I haven't seen any reports of changes to this.

I just love how you quote the Constitution, then throw in your own personal claim in the middle there ('We are the State') and hope that no-one will notice the difference.

You seem to be struggling with basics of law. DAA is owned by the State. DAA is NOT the State. To make is simple, my house is owned by meself and herself. My house is NOT meself and herself.

The fact that DAA own the airport does not give you or me or anyone in the State any rights to access DAA property. It is a nonsense suggestion.

All bus companies pay DAA to access the airport. Time for motorists to start stumping up too.

What exactly is meant by 'pension plan funding for directors' please?

I'd be interested in developing ideas based on Option 1.

It seems to provide traffic regulation and offers a cost free option to drivers who are not part of the problem.

I have seen similar set ups in the UK and other destinations within walking distance of the terminals.

Absolutely agree with this.

The people clogging up the drop off area are not those dropping off - why would you hang around if your passenger is gone off to get their flight??

It's people stalling, waiting to pick up passengers, which is not permitted in the departure drop off are - and a reasonably timed ticketing system would catch a lot of those.

Whether DAA should/ could/ would provide another area for people to wait and pick up arrivals is a different question.

Agree with the above - this has been implemented due to people waiting in the drop-off only area to pick people up. I recall a few years back seeing a constant stream of cars in the drop-off only area waiting, a Garda car was doing constant loops around flashing folks away, by the time the Garda car did a loop back round more cars where there waiting for people. Was quite comical to watch

What has 'profit making' got to do with anything? Bus and taxi companies pay charges to access the airport, and pass on those charges to their customers. Why should private motorists be left off the hook for accessing similar services?

It doesn't affect 'everyone' who uses the airport. It doesn't affect taxi or bus customers who already pay additional charges through their fares.

the ‘obvious’ difference is that a private citizen is not providing a commercial service. I go pick up my cousin it’s a not for profit gig.

busses and taxis are for profit, they profit every time they enter the airport, if dropping or collecting.

buses and taxis rely also on a variety of staff and infrastructure at the airport….

private cars and citizens do not.

if I get collected from the gym tomorrow would it be seen as right-minded that a fella comes out of a hut and tells my cousin that it will be two euros to set down and wait in the set down area… ? NO it wouldn’t.

DAA is owned by the Irish state, the Irish people, it should refrain from gouging Irish people and indeed others who are doing no more then try to collect a person after a journey….

Whilst Stanstead is better served than Dublin by public transport, I think people get carried away with the idea that airports in other countries have some wonderful transport system which means that driving needn't be an option. Generally our use as tourists is limited to getting from the airport to a hotel in the metropolis, which isn't really a valid comparison to getting from our suburban home to the airport.

Looking on google maps at Stanstead over lunch (and I'm the first to admit this is a sad way to spend 30 minutes) I randomly picked some towns of 3K, 4K people that would be within it's catchment area (say 10 miles). Unless you happen to be slap-bang on a direct train route, then the PT option is usually coming in at about 2.5x/3x the driving time, often with a need to change bus or train along the way. Some of the google suggestions even involve firstly heading into London. All very similar conceptually to Dublin.

DAA have allowed this to happen by not providing any infrastructure for the collection of arriving passengers, beyond its extortionate short term car park. Indeed, if every collected arrival was taking a space in short term there wouldn't be enough capacity.

DAA thinks clearly that once you are out the door and not a revenue opportunity any more they don't have to provide infrastructure.

As far as I can tell, the Aircoach 706 service costs 18 euro return from O'Connell Street, whereas a return starting at the airport is 20 euro. Not sure about other providers/services, but this seems to imply that passengers *not* using the airport are not charged the extra fee.

The rare exception of the 33A isn't quite the Gotcha that you seem to think it is. Dublin Bus charges are regulated, so they're not in a position to apply extra charges to specific passengers. So the additional cost of airport access is spread across all passengers ultimately.

Seems like a fairly sound commercial decision to recognise that arriving passengers are not a revenue opportunity. Who goes shopping on their way home, except that time that you forgot to buy something for the other half and found some Butlers chocs instead? They're not going to get much out of arriving passengers, so why not expect the person picking them up to contribute to the cost of road infrastructure?

So if PT doesn't work, you can still drive. You can still drop off for free at the red car park. If you want to drop to the door, you pay a small fee, tiny in the context of the overall spend on the trip, to cover the costs of the infrastructure that you use.

I've answered your question twice already. Will it help put things to bed if I give you the same answer a third time?

What does it matter if you're not-for-profit or not? You're still using infrastructure. You're still taking up space.

And maybe it is for profit. Maybe the cousin will buy you a pint or brought you some duty free? Who knows? Who cares, really. If you're going to use the infrastructure, you pay for it. If you don't want to me, meet your cousin at the red car park. it's no skin off your nose.

There are a bunch of posts on the thread including this one from people noting difficulties at the drop off zone.

That post states there were a bunch of cars in the drop off zone and a Garda car was doing loops flashing at them. Still, no one has explained what the issue is? No one can, because there is no issue.

no one has provided a logical explanation as to why there is an issue with cars pulling into the side of the road?!

It will be the metro. eventually.

Who won’t have a job it will create jobs ;)