What are your thoughts on the fertiliser price s for 2022

With talk of 18.6.12 hitting €1k, 5 bags pa is €31.25 per bale, at mow/bale/wrap, can’t see contractors charging less that €12.50 a bale and I’d say more with the rising cost of diesel. Wrap at €4, you’re at over €50 a bale by the time it’s tedded, and stacked in the yard.

not sure if poster is diary or beef but if beef then the economics of shaking 5 bags pa making >€50 bales is just not there. Diary might ride this out somewhat but for beef, better to cut back on stock than spending crazy money on fert.

Oil is the killer. Gas is going to fluctuate as we come out of winter. The big pinch point is how Germany is going to react to gas and are they willing to cut ties to this russian gas. If they do, that is the pressure valve released it cut the fuel to the Russian economy and army

Went to buy fert and dairygold are rationing, wouldn't sell me any, trying to make sure everyone has enough till May

Price likely rising also. I have some bought in dec and Jan but they are trying to keep lads going too, which look is fair enough. Feed likely to increase too so no harm to stick in an order if ye have space

Lakelands fertiliser went up 200 a tonne last night

Something must be happening if there's such a rush to get it out and the talk of €200 extra on a ton in the last 24 hours. I wonder have they been tipped off? Be like the fuel crowd then upping prices prior to the excise cut

Quite possible alright 👍🏽

You would wonder where this will end

They got burned on the fuel one yesterday.

They'll hardly make that faux pas again tomorrow.

Hopefully they wont do anything, will only make a mess of things in the long run

The problem is how do you return to normality after. These types of interventions don't generally disappear without a trace after

Don't think that will make much difference. If a merchant knows your coming armed with a subsidy from the government, ya can be sure the price will rise so they swallow that cash. As with all things grant related, prices rise. It's rarely the receiver of the grant benefits. Same with TAMS grants - prices rise when grant is mentioned. Sure even the simple bike to work scheme seen every bike in the country jump to €1000 when it came in.

There's only one way to sort this and it's to nationalise the production of fertiliser. The government then control it. But of course the civil service would make a balls of it

Use I would be very slow. A good part of the price problem was that during last summer fertlizer companies resold there forward bought gas. This prevented them from producing fertlizer during last autumn. They only restarted production when fertlizer prices started to rise due to bulk buying by the likes of India and by China stopping it export.

Europe intends to reduce it's dependance on Russian gas by over 60% this this summer. Mainly by using what LOG storage it has and by Germany getting it nuclear plants back fully online.

Remember high prices cure high prices. If I was forwards buying anything it would be rations or putting a pan in place to grow maize if in the intensive beef finishing game or in dairying.

Hearing of can gone over 1 k per tonne and 18 6 12!to 980….there’s still lads that have little to no fertiliser bought ….madness at this stage

There's no way for prices to drop significantly before this time next year.

Asia is hungry for gas and if the eu is competing for gas to fill tanks, there wont be any reductions in price by next winter.

Supply and price could be an even bigger issue this time next year if ukraine doesn't surrender.