What are your thoughts on the fertiliser price s for 2022

No they do not. What you fail to understand is that smaller producers especially Suckler farmers are looking at this and making business decisions. I have talked to three Suckler farmers that sell there progeny as stores at year end normally.

Take a Suckler farmer with 25cows that normally buys 5T of fertlizer. Last year it cost him 16-1800euro. At present prices it is 5k. Now that's an extra 3300 or 135/animal. A few have made conscious decisions to sell there stores now. Buy virtually no fertlizer and minimal stock this year.

I bough my fertlizer pre last Saturday. I can manage this year but ration prices are worrying me now. If ration keeps going crazy and I don't see it reflected in beef prices I will cut back numbers by 15-25% next year. Dairy farmers will do the same.

It will not be farmers or there animals that starve. With high cattle price it may make more sense to slaughter than to carry losses.

The biggest pressure will not be fodder but high energy grains used in rations, barley maize, wheat etc. The most important thing is try to encourage extensive farmers to grow extra fodder not just what they require themselves. Cost of a round bale of sage will go from 25/ bake to 35+/ bale and that is if you are using slurry for the majority of your P&K. If you are using bagged fertlizer ( many intensive dairy farmers are as some of there silage ground is 15+ miles away) then the cost is heading above 50+/bale.

Autumn milk production depends on bring supplemented by with high quality silage and/or rations. 5-6 years ago rations cost 230/ ton, last year 260-280, at present 320-350/ ton and futures for grains indicate prices of over 500/ ton.

So go figure

18-6-12 at €870 this morning in Grennans, up from €750 middle of last week. Urea is €1k. I have mine in the yard already and won’t be buying any more but it’s nearly like chatting about the weather now, you just ask about the price of it any time you’re in!

I ordered 10-5-25+S for barley this morning at €870 a ton also. I was too late making the decision to sow and would have got it €100 cheaper if I’d ordered it last week but I was waiting in soil sample results to come back.

It's every Govt for decades, it's across the EU, especially the EU commission.

The chickens are coming home to roost and they are off the lay as well.

Thank God you'll have time to fix the reaper and binder.

I honestly don’t know if they’ve nailed down any contracts KG, but if I were to buy next years fert now, I’d definitely forward sell some grains against it straight away…!

Farmers are acting like the people who stocked up on jacks roll when COVID lockdown started. There’s a crazy scramble going on to buy fert that won’t be needed until this day next year. Mad stuff. A lot can happen in a year.

Then again, they may be the shrewd ones.

I just hope the market for stock will hold up. I've no debt here and will offload the stock if they are not paying. Leave the wife work away and I'll rear a few calves and be a Superdad.

But but but, if it’s GRASS it’s low input!!

By definition.

Plastic,seed and pre-emergance spray per acre for maize has only gone up 15 euro a acre on last years prices, from my supplier only sting in the tail was having to buy 2023's plastic this year as the higher powers in Europe have banned it

Got last years maize of on the 20th of September last year, was sown the last week of April, using a earlier maturing variety here as tillage man I've the ground of likes to get in a winter wheat crop after it, even on iffy ground you should be able to travel in September without destroying the place most years

Drinagh coop sent out a text earlier all fert prices being withdrawn until further notice..... Not a good sign.