What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

I don't have any real answers about where to put them, except to say that there are options that might not be suitable for most people, but considering the situation, could be put to use for a limited time.

There's a number of closed convents and other boarding schools which were operated by the Church, but aren't being used dotted around the country. The same with holiday camps/homes/camping sites, or scenic locations with chalets or small housing units. I know the DP area in my hometown was never used to capacity.. and I suspect it's the same in many midlands or country areas. There's options out there... not wonderful options but something to be availed of, during the short term.

The big problem with housing in Ireland is that people want to stay in particular areas. For those who are willing to commute/travel, there have always been a lot more choice.

I'm not going to get involved in a discussion about housing because that's not the aim of this thread. It's been done to death on other threads, and I have no interest in rehashing/wrangling the same tired arguments.

I don't think they would, it's a temporary humanitarian issue. Hopefully the war will not go on too long. If it does, things may change, until then No-one will have an issue with temporary accommodation.

I have no argument against that.

I would presume if they actually dealt with asylum claims in a timely fashion, temporary accommodation would be suitable

Nope. They are not 'playing the system' they are doing what is legally allowed to do. Change the system.

The other important aspect is integration and intermarriage. White people are more likely to marry and have children with other white people. That's the same for Black people, who typically, marry other Black people. Interracial marriage is far less common than marriage between the same racial profile.

The pension aspect is a different matter and is simply incompatible with the rising costs of living, and the costs incurred by older people in a first world nation (or wealthy developing nation). State pensions are simply not viable in a first world nation, because no nation has the kind of economy to support it.

I get what you're saying about Ukrainians. I feel the same about Chinese immigrants and other SE Asian cultural groups, who integrate well, don't cause much trouble, and have the hard-work attitude towards both their personal finances and the raising of their children. To me, they're the groups who we should be encouraging to settle in Europe, as opposed to the groups which typically show a greater presence in the unemployment and crime statistics.

However, as with profiling of any kind... any suggestion of placing priority towards particular groups over others is seen as "wrong". I don't understand the logic myself, but there's a lot of outrage over suggesting such a policy, regardless of the positives for Ireland, if we accept that mass immigration is a definite one way or another.

Not really. The 'system ' is our legal system and constitution. Both of which were designed many many years ago, long before anyone imagined anyone would want to come live in Ireland.

our constitution and legal system are extremely fair and I for one would not want either changing as regards our human rights.

The asylum system itself needs to be quicker.

The double standards of the NGO industry. The above accomodation for European refugees will be considered fine by the NGO industry while only the best will do for the scan asylum seekers they seem to exclusively represent

Actually, I suggested those places, because another poster asked me where the refugees would be housed... it wasn't really something put forward by the NGO crowd, although I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see a wide range of demands for hotels to be re-tasked. This is what tends to happen with our politicians and NGOs, make the grand gesture, and expect someone else to come up with the solutions. Naturally, with this kind of thinking, the most expensive options will be chosen, because there hasn't been the necessary research and planning implemented beforehand. (and before anyone says that Ukraine couldn't have been guessed beforehand, the reality is that there were months of threat by Russia before the invasion, but even without that, due diligence would have planned/prepared for our standard refugee/migrant intakes, with more besides for emergencies).

The interesting thing worth considering is the quality of the accommodation that these refugees experience in their own countries, vs what is expected to be provided for them here. I mean, there are some very nice apartment blocks in Ukraine, but generally speaking building quality is closer to the communist crap (like China), and most people aren't living in housing that we'd consider to be average here. I can remember when people were complaining about the DP services provided, and thinking of my own experiences living/staying in places in their original countries... in many cases, the DP resources were a definite step up from what they'd known before. Probably not for everyone, but there's this strange expectation that refugees, AS, etc should be given the best quality possible, when the average Irish person has to save for decades, in addition to their very awkward mortgage.