Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Burgerface tagged out, these lads tagged in with a different tack. I think it's worth remembering that as the situation in Ukraine stagnates a bit and it all gets a bit normalised (unfortunately), discussion can turn from outrage at the Russian invasion to bickering over finer points. To reiterate, the main thing should be Russia get the hell out of Ukraine. It is fundamentally wrong what they are trying to do to that country and its people, and there is no amount of deflection or distraction that should be allowed to take away from this main point. Anyone trying to make it about something else is either acting in bad faith or their moral compass is out the window.

Anybody see the report on rte news last night about the conveys from Ireland to Poland? A lot of rubbish cloths including red high heels, ffs, seem to have gone over which to me is downright insulting when they need food and healthcare supplies badly.

On November 30th, 1939, the Soviet Union attacked Finland without a declaration of war. For 105 days the Fins successfully fought off the soviet's offensive causing heavy losses to the Soviet troops. 82 years ago today the Winter War ended after a truce being made.

Someone had to have been taking the piss putting them in. NGOs are asking for less physical donation deliveries because they're a logistical burden. Makes much more sense for them to source all possible necessities locally in the likes of Poland instead of truck loads of goods from all over coming in. Just people wanting to feel involved but not a smart move during times of fuel scarcity.

Joe Joyce has a better credit rating now

People mean well (mostly, but very mindful of opportunists especially NGOs) but you’d really have to question the value of sending some of the tat over.

Needs to be more professional direction targeting exactly what is needed and where but understandably this was all done in a but of a rush. Medical supplies, practical food supplies and emergency accommodation/toiletries would appear to be the priority.

I think people are so stupid that when they hear refugee they think poor and then send things they associate with being well off or luxurious, hence high **** heels.

I’m wary of the likes of GOAL getting involved- some of these have chequered enough histories when it comes to accounts and where their funding is going ie 6 figure Chairpersons salaries with rampant nepotism thrown in.

The Russians got a right walloping in Finland in WW2.

To be fair if they believe there is a chance they will be shot down over Ukraine trying to do exactly what they done in that attack last night then doing it the way they did and doing that damage without losing any planes was the smart thing to do. To be honest this is what Russia should of been doing off the mark right away when they started their invasion. If they had of used their airforce and cruise missiles on the opening day properly with overwhelming force then Russia might of had this war won by now or a lot less casualties on their side for sure.

They had a presence... Sure Roman Abramovich wanted to sue us if the banks defaulted

Could be more innocent than that. It might just be people getting rid of clothes they no longer use. It could be as simple as one person in a household looking to load up a bin liner of old clothes and saying that to the rest of the people there who then proceed to clear out their wardrobe of old stuff without malice, favour, affection or ill-will. Just stick it in the bag.

As @road_high said, it's all been a bit rushed.

more peacekeepers .. how kind of putin im sure they will all be wearing un peace keeper outfits ..