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Denied work from home while other colleagues are allowed

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    #32
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,810 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780130#Comment_118780130


    Nobody is saying that you should discriminate. What they are saying is that not everything is discrimination.

    The reason the others might be allowed to work from home might be simply that they asked first. In the same way that it is not necessarily discrimination for the boss to allow the first worker who asks for Christmas week off, but then not allow others because they need coverage.



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    #33
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,810 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780253#Comment_118780253


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxM8gCw_H0k




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    #34
    [Deleted User]
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    Hey op, yeah, your situation sounds a bit cr*p alright. But it could be a kind of compliment, that maybe they've decided they'd like someone in at all times and you're the best person for the job. If it were me, I'd do it for a couple of weeks and then suggest to your manager that - all things being equal - you'd benefit from working from home a couple of days a week and maybe an informal rota could be set up for you and the rest of the team.

    At the end of the day, if none of the last two years had happened, you'd still be in the office five days (or whatever) a week.



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    #35
    Augme
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780101#Comment_118780101


    Yes, but I wouldn't give them in a role that could involve meeting clients. The impression from the OP is that they all do the same role, and I assume they did this pre covid so they would have all been in the office and then likely meeting clients etc. It would be very strange if it turned out they were all the kind of people who you wouldn't want to meet clients then.


    In saying that we've no idea if they did meet clients even so getting into wild speculation here.



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    #36
    Nsonowa
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780726#Comment_118780726

    But.. it did happen. And if OP didn't WFH during it the company would have been hurt.



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    #37
    SweetCaliber
    Registered Users Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    Apologies guys, my question probably wasn't made clear in my initial post. I've full intention of asking why I was denied, however I just wanted other opinions on this just so I don't go in with nothing to back me up (and end up falling on my arse).

    Basically I started with the company during the pandemic and when I applied for WFH after the back to office talks started, I was told I'd benefit more being in the office (socialising etc..) and was denied it, have to do 5 days in the office.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't mind being there and would rather do a mix like the others, but if everyone else is allowed 3 days at home then I don't see why I'm not, and I'm wondering if this is allowed or is it somewhat unfair seeing as the original reason given doesn't even make sense as most days theres probably 2 or 3 of us max in the office and we are all separated.

    I also go off for lunch so the whole socialising thing is out the window. I'm essentially doing the same job as I was at home, with the extra commute which includes sitting in traffic for 30 minutes each morning and the same on the way home. I just don't see any reason to justify it.

    Again my productivity is not something in question here, I'm one of the most productive on the team and never gotten so much as a telling off for anything.



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    #38
    Dav010
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    I suppose the obvious question is were all the others working in the office prior to the pandemic? They may see merit in you being in the office initially to gain the necessary experience, then transition to wfh like the others.

    Also, if you joined during the pandemic, what does your contract say about place of work, is it office or wfh?

    If you don’t mind being there, what is the issue?



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    #39
    SweetCaliber
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781328#Comment_118781328

    They were yes, though some were on WFH contracts before the pandemic. Contract says initially WFH then office once guidance allows it.

    I don't mind being there 2/3 days a week but would prefer a more flexible approach.



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    #40
    Dav010
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781351#Comment_118781351

    If the others had wfh contracts before the pandemic, that rules out any allegation of discrimination. Your contract would seem to have indicated from the outset that you would be office based, so I’m not sure what you can do apart from asking for their consideration.



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    #41
    SweetCaliber
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781402#Comment_118781402

    Yeah I suppose, for anyone else wondering also its not about a nice face, trust me I'm far from it! 😂

    We offer accountancy services online, our office is not public facing all business is done online though we do set up zoom meetings with clients at times.



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    #42
    CrookedJack
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779696#Comment_118779696

    Well that's a shame, I had it in my head that my nice face was so my everyone could look at it all day and feel happy.



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    #43
    Mrs OBumble
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    Based on your updates, I suspect that they actually want your work to be somehow different to what they others are doing - in ways that haven't yet been explained to you.

    I'd advise either job hunting if you really want WFH, or putting a smile on your face and giving it a go for 6 months and working out what's going on.



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    #44
    Mrs OBumble
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780130#Comment_118780130

    Not trolling even slightly.

    What law do you think you would be breaking if you discriminate based on appearance? (Hint: being good-looking is not restricted to one sex/gender).



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    #45
    GoldFour4
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    What is your home work setup like OP? Just trying to think of reasons for wfh being denied.

    Are you working from a kitchen table or with housemates/family in same room etc?



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    #46
    Fr Tod Umptious
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780101#Comment_118780101

    I worked in a small company

    We had a junior accountant that was good at his job but really scruffy

    A few times we had visits from potential customers or investors, really big deal for the company to get their business.

    We were asked to keep our desks clean at come in neatly dressed etc.

    The scruffy accountant guy was asked to stay at home.

    It happens alright.



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    #47
    SweetCaliber
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    - snip -



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    #48
    SweetCaliber
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118782679#Comment_118782679

    Private room, no distractions, actually spent quite a lot of my own money on a desk, ergonomic chair, laptop stands extra monitor etc..



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    #49
    Augme
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    Do they need someone in the office tondo the **** tasks like filing, collecting/doing post etc? Most businesses will have general admin tasks like that which still need to be completed.



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    #50
    AyeGer
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    The two most likely reasons are 1. Your particular job can’t be done adequately at home. 2. They believe you will be swinging the lead.



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    #51
    TheGlossy
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    How long have you been with the company?

    I know my company required everyone with less than a year in the company to work from the office while everyone else was working from home.



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    #52
    Sunrise_Sunset
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    I am also in a situation where I've been denied a hybrid work situation, because I'm not a manager. The office team is small, mostly managers, and only a handful of non-managers. The non-managers have all been denied WFH. No other reason, than our status in the office.



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