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Say a lot of logic. Let's say Russia loses, knocked back across Russia with their army, on their knees for a decade or more. America will be able to fully concentrate on China in South East Asia, in regards to Taiwan etc. China had probably seen with America might do in regards arming Taiwan up to the hilt so an invasion by China would be huge cost to them. China might be thinking say if Putin is replaced by someone and is more pro Western then China could be encircled by the biggest country in the world who is more pro western. They will be thinking send weapons to Russia, let them use them in Ukraine, keep America and the allies busy there and let us alone to build up for our invasion of Taiwan. I wonder will this speed up China doing this as they now know what can happen if tons and tons of equipment are given to a country against an attacker. Might make them move their time table up as has been said 5 to 10 years for them to be up to invading Taiwan.

Very stupid move by China.

The China confirmation from Tony Connelly not being reported anywhere so don't think it is correct.

I saw Tony Connelly mention China giving Russia military aid as a new development on the Six One news. He's on early in the news bulletin with an update. However I don't see any articles to back this up anywhere. Fingers crossed it's not true...

It's likely it's what's has been said in the last day or so. They have denied that.

@greenpilot

Well, let's see, now...

It's the first war of this scale in Europe since the turn of the century.

It's prompting what looks to be the biggest refugee crisis in Europe since WW2.

It demarcates a precipitous and pretty sudden decline in relations between Russia and the West.

It's a conflict that threatens to bring Russia and NATO into direct military conflict, which leads into a concern about runaway escalation, and the N word (not that one - the other one).

Not to mention the long term implications of cutting Russia off and making it a pariah, meaning the West is going to have to quite a bit of reshuffling to reduce dependence on Russia in some areas.

But apart from that, yes, it's all fine. The events over there will never ever affect us in any appreciable way.

(nervous laughter)

China are afraid that Putin might be overthrown, and if he is they could have a democratic hostile Russian on their border, this is the last thing Xi wants to see, so he might bail Putin out

Sure, but China needs the year on year rise in trade growth, especially as there may be a whopping property bubble that could knock them for six. COVID too is rearing its head once more for them. Not all that convinced the claim is true at all and I think they just want to stay out of it. The big loss for them is that it undoes the important global image they want to project and people will laugh at any claims of their looking for peace.

I would wait and see on the question of whether China offers Russia aid. No-one knows apart from the Chinese themselves, so what information is doing the rounds at the moment is pure hyperbole.... and I don't believe for a second that there's a mole within the inner circle of Xi Jingping who would willingly show the Chinese hand.

China's so embedded in the global supply chain that cutting it off in any major way isn't really doable. I mean, it is doable, in the sense of where there's a will, but there isn't really a will. What cutting off China means for the person on the street is what makes it politically untenable.

Moving manufacturing off to some other developing country would take time for them to have their infrastructure in place, and even then it probably means making another monster in time. You could move manufacturing back to the west, but that would mean either needing to steeply raise the prices of goods made there to cover the higher wages of western workers, or maybe drastically slash the salaries of executives, and that is something the executives would never stand for.

Is the latter the Chelsea (ex-?) Owner?