Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

I think he does care what people thinks. He wants to be seen as a strong leader. His military prowess and lack of intelligence on Ukraine has made him look weak.

You must be new here?

Didnt they say a while ago Russia would be bankrupt in "2 more weeks"?

How many more days are left at this stage then, they must be about to capitulate by now surely

Wasn’t the invasion meant to be over in 3 days?

Btw, who is ‘they’?

The stingers and Javelins could be considered 'Denial' rather than 'Control' weapons. Taking the stingers as an example. They cannot allow Ukraine to take full control over their airspace - they can however prevent Russia from doing so. Same with other weapons being sent. Ukraine seeks to deny Russia from attaining its strategic goals. Denial weapons are perfect to accomplish this

Any chance the embedded reporters ; camera/video section of the Russian army put up on boards their side of the story then.

There sliding towards defaulted fairly rapidly and they are currently trying to claim leased civilian aircraft aka airliner as sovereign property of Russia , which will do permanent and long lasting damage to themselves when it comes to civil aviation

The EU is still buying roughly €1 billion worth of Russian fuel sources per day.

Be a while waiting for the Russian economy to collapse at that rate

I dont have to remind you of anything. Of course they will continue to ask for a no fly zone. I dont doubt that and never said otherwise.

Russia can fly as many sorties into the Ukraine as they wish. They have NOT established control of Ukrainian Airspace. And they are losing aircraft. If you want to push a numbers based argument. Yes Russia can keep sending planes and 'not care' about the losses. But a numerical argument would have seen this war end nearly 2 weeks ago. It didnt.

Furthermore, Moscow's argument domestically that 'all is going according to plan' is a lie they will NOT be able to maintain indefinitely.

from your post above

These weapons are not accomplishing any wider military objectives for the Ukrainians. I dont think it is speculation to suggest that the primary goal of the Ukraine is to survive. They achieve this by preventing Russia from achieving its goals. And thus far, they have done so.

I posted a kind of hypothetical solution here a few pages back. the OFF RAMP - How long before said ramp is more attractive than continuing to slog it out with an enemy that is armed by the west. And all the while watching as your economy is crucified?

Can the Russians just keep going - YES

Is there a cost to this? YES - getting more expensive hour by hour

At what point does the cost outweigh the goal? we dont know

Irish people taking in Ukrainians will be able to claim HAP for them.

That sounds like the war is over

In that case its a no contest.

Moral is important for the Ukrainian resistance and I understand that. But there is a lot of exaggeration

Its a valid question - here is my opinion FYI

The key component in my hypothetical would be a joint guarantee from both Blocs (by blocs i mean the Russian/Russo-Aligned, and NATO/The-West)

The basic idea would be that Ukraine become a neutral armed country, unaligned to either NATO or Russia. Both agree to this. The UN could (assuming Russian agreement) accept responsibility to oversee this treaty (assume if we get this far that Russia has tacitly accepted, and agreed to Mutually Backed Neutrality)

Like i stated the pressure and the compromise need not be mutually exclusive - the pressure CAN LEAD TO, the compromise -

What Russia Gets:

• NON NATO aligned Ukraine
• No NATO forces in Ukraine
• An Internationally backed and observed agreement that the above status WILL NEVER CHANGE - #
• If it DID CHANGE, Russia 'Retain the right to intervene... etc'
• The wests 'Back door into Russia is locked from the inside'

What the West/Ukraine Gets

• Ukraine can join EU so-long-as they refrain from joining any possible military arm of said Union
• Ukraine is Armed But Neutral - its Sovereignty is FACTUALLY RECOGNIZED by both sides - under UN observation if necessary
• Both Blocs GUARANTEE this situation as status quo DeJure/DeFacto Sovereign Neutrality
• Should Russia 'Intervene' outside of agreed status (should this war 'happen again') NATO no longer restrained from Intervening.
• The Russian's 'Back door into Europe is locked from the outside'

You can add the possible territorial compromises i mentioned (or some agreed compromise) as the sweetener for Russia. Allow (with prejudice if you wish) Russia to march back to Moscow and assure its population that 'They have won' - World steps back from brink. Sanctions drastically reduced against Russia, albeit with a warning. We are watching and will hold you to this treaty.

But the basic idea is both get something from this kind of agreement

(If during the retreat Putin gets 'accidentally' run over by a T72 tank - very unfortunate, accidents happen, )

Ukraine could have butchered a million children ten years ago, and it would still be irrelevant. Invading now wouldn't save any lives.

All that matters is whether the reasons for this invasion and the actions being taken by Russia are legitimate and proportionate.

Given that the reason for the invasion is the "removal of Nazis in Kyiv" and Putin's desire to return Ukraine to Russian rule (as he has stated himself), then we know there is no justification for the invasion.

Everything else is irrelevant.